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mcdonald0517
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Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:27 pm      Post subject: Help translating pieces of this Census
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Hi everyone,

Valerie recently translated the majority of this census document from Dynow, but pieces of it are still a mystery. Can anyone help out with the areas underlined or bordered in blue in these 2 pages?

I am especially interested in the place of death for Tekla Bielec nee Gasecka (line 1, page 2) and the military information for Jakub Bielec (line 3, page 1), but wold love to know everything that has blue lines near it.

Thank you for any help you can offer - even a word here and there would be helpful.

Cynthia



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Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:05 pm      Post subject:
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p.1
line/column
1/5 - główny lokator - main tenant, it could be rather owner of the house/flat
1/6 ?
2/6 ?
3/9 - książka wojskowa, kat(egorii) E or C, nr rejestr 243, P.K.U. Przemyśl,
4/6 same as 1/6
unknown town - looks same on 4/8, 7/4
7/5 ?
p.2
line/column
1/15 - Zmarła dnia 3.1.1938 - died on 3 of january 1938, no next residence so she died in Dynów
4/10 - Dowód osobisty nr ... date of issue 8 of jan 1941, place gm(ina) Dynów?. Town also looks like in 7/13 and like 4/8, 7/4 of p.1
6/12 - Przedmieście
6/13 - Dynów?
7/10 - Dowód osobisty nr..... z dnia 6 of nov, 1940 issued in gm(ina) .......
7/12 - looks like Lwów
7/13 looks like 4/8, 7/4 from p.1

hope its understandable Smile
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:08 am      Post subject:
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sirdan wrote:
p.1
line/column
1/5 - główny lokator - main tenant, it could be rather owner of the house/flat
1/6 ? -- samowyst.? - samowystarczalny/a - self-sufficient as source of income, i.e. living with what she/he produces
2/6 ? -- wyrobnik?, see "robotnik in 7/6
3/9 - książka wojskowa, kat(egorii) E or C, nr rejestr 243, P.K.U. Przemyśl,
4/6 same as 1/6 -- yes, samowyst.? - samowystarczalny/a - self-sufficient as source of income, i.e. living with what she/he produces
unknown town - looks same on 4/8, 7/4
7/5 ? -- gł. lok. - główny lokator, main person (either owner or tenant) registered as principal resident in that place
p.2
line/column
1/15 - Zmarła dnia 3.1.1938 - died on 3 of january 1938, no next residence so she died in Dynów
4/10 - Dowód osobisty nr ... date of issue 8 of jan 1941, place gm(ina) Dynów?. Town also looks like in 7/13 and like 4/8, 7/4 of p.1
6/12 - Przedmieście --(przedmiescie=suburbs)
6/13 - Dynów? -- yes, Dynów
7/10 - Dowód osobisty nr..... z dnia 6 of nov, 1940 issued in gm(ina) ....... Dynów
7/12 - looks like Lwów -- yes, Lwów
7/13 looks like 4/8, 7/4 from p.1 -- yes, Dynów

hope its understandable Smile


Sirdan,
Cynthia,

I added few items. Very bad scribe, tired by writing the same words.
Re: 6/12 Google maps is able to find Dynów+Przedmieście! Ochotnicza+Straż+Pożarna+Dynów+Przedmieście,+Generała+Sikorskiego,+36-065+Dynów,+Poland

Best,
Elzbieta
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:08 am      Post subject:
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Hello Sirdan and Elzbieta,

Thank you both very much for your generous help.

I will process this additional information... It holds several clues for my family.

Best regards,
Cynthia
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:27 pm      Post subject: Re: Help translating pieces of this Census
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mcdonald0517 wrote:
Hi everyone,

Valerie recently translated the majority of this census document from Dynow, but pieces of it are still a mystery. Can anyone help out with the areas underlined or bordered in blue in these 2 pages?

I am especially interested in the place of death for Tekla Bielec nee Gasecka (line 1, page 2) and the military information for Jakub Bielec (line 3, page 1), but wold love to know everything that has blue lines near it.

Thank you for any help you can offer - even a word here and there would be helpful.

Cynthia

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