Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:26 pm
Post subject: My family- Cencula
Any information that you can provide about the Cencula family would be most helpful, especially Andrew Cencula
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:51 am
Post subject: Re: My family- Cencula
| sasha0223 wrote: | | Any information that you can provide about the Cencula family would be most helpful, especially Andrew Cencula |
Can you tell us anything else about your ancestors, especially Andrew Cencula? Knowing which information you have already will help avoid duplicating your (or other members') efforts.
Do you know if Andrew Cencula married in Chicago? I found a church marriage record for Andrzej Cencula and Rozalia Kedziorska that I’m going to attach for you. They were married on Jan 28, 1902 at St. John Cantius Church, Chicago. According to the record, Andrzej and Rozalia were from Czarny Dunajec, district of Nowy Targ. Andrzej’s mother’s name was Agnes Bebanka (?), his father’s name is not given, Rozalia Kedziorska’s parents were Pawla (Paul) Kedziorski and Katarzyna Haberna [Chaberna]. Witnesses were Michael Dlugopolski and Franciszek Mierwa.
Some weeks later, on 22 April 1902, a Michael Dlugopolski married Franciszka Kedziorska (who seems to have been Rozalia Kedziorska's sister) at St. John Cantius Church, Chicago. According to the church record, Michael and Franciszka were also from Czarny Dunajec. Michael’s parents were Andrzej and Katarzyna Dlugopolski (Katarzyna’s maiden name not given); Franciszka Kedziorska’s parents were Pawla (Paul) Kedziorski and Katarzyna [Chaberna]. Witnesses were Stanislaw and Jozef Chaberna.
In your profile you wrote that your great-grandfather Andrew Cencula was from Miedzyczerwienne and came to America 6/13/1898. I have not found any Cencula immigrants from Miedzyczerwienne so far, but a number of records that hint at Stary (= most likely Stare Bystre), Pekelsick (= most likely Piekielnik), and Czarny Dunajec in the district of Nowy Targ: http://g.co/maps/hyrbx
Miedzyczerwienne is a little further south.
I found the following Cencula immigrants (New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924):
Cencula, Anna, Date of Arrival: Mar 21, 1910, Age at Arrival: 18y, Marital Status: S, Ship of Travel: Lapland, Port of Departure: Antwerp, Place of birth and last place of residence: Stary, Austria, with Father Jozef Cencula, Stary, destination Chicago to join Uncle Jan Cencula, 4852, Central Ave. Source: New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924, Manifest Line Number: 0025.
Cencula, Jozef, Last Place of Residence: Hara Gnyska Towykey [STARA BYSTRA, Nowy Targ]. Date of Arrival: Jan 27, 1903 Age at Arrival: 42y, Marital Status: M, Ship of Travel: Kroonland, Port of Departure: Antwerp, Destination Mt. Pleasant, PA, to join friend Franciszek Klasier. Source: New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924, Manifest Line Number: 0019.
Cencula, Helena Last Place of Residence: Pekelsick [PEKELNIK/Pekielnik?], Date of Arrival: Nov 29, 1902 Age at Arrival: 35y Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Main Port of Departure: Bremen Destination husband Cencula [first name not given] 17, Fay St., Chicago. Source: New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924, Manifest Line Number: 0016.
Helena Cencula was accompanied by her son Rudolf Cencula, 11 years old, same information as above, Source: New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924, Manifest Line Number: 0017.
I also found the following marriage licences:
- Jan Cencula to Anna Komperda [misspelled Kompenda](Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N76L-CQV
According to the marriage licence, church marriage was on 16 May 1893 at St. Stanislaus parish (Vincent Barzinsky, pastor of St. Stanislaus parish, Chicago). I couldn't find the church marriage record yet.
- Michal Cencula to Karolina Nolesna (Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N743-C9W
Church marriage was on 9 Sept. 1901 at St. John Cantius Church, Chicago (Rev. Stefan Dybkowski.)
According to the church marriage record, Michal Cenculawas from Stare Bystre, his parents were Tomasz Cencula and Maryanna Pietka. Witnesses were Franciszek Mierzwa and Bronislaw Rybowicz.
- Mrs. Zofia Cencula to Tisch Hansen (Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7Z1-MYQ
Zofia Cencula is indexed as Mrs. Zofia Cencula, I assume she was widowed. It seems there was no church marriage, the marriage licence is signed by Dean Franklin, Judge of the City Court of Macomb City, and there is no additional information regarding a church marriage.
As to your great-grandfather Andrzej Cencula -- he may have first settled in Chicago, and later moved on to Ohio. There are some census records and also some obituaries in the Chicago Tribune Historical Archives for Chicago Cencula families that I can send you if you think they will be helpful in your research.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:37 pm
Post subject: My family-Cencula
I am looking into my family history. My great-grand parents came from a small town called Czarny Dunajec, Nowy Targ, Poland. My great-grand father was Andrew(Andrzej) Cencula and my great-grand mother was Rozalia Cencula(Kendzierski). Andrew's mother was Agnes Cencula and no findings of his father. Andrew came to America in 1898 Baltimore MD then to Mt. Pleasant PA then to Chicago Ill. and then finally settled in Ohio. I also have located a group of Cencula's in Illinois and trying to find out if we are related. The only link that I can find is Sophie Cencula was my grandfather's, Michael F. Cencula's godmother,she was from the Chicago area. I also was wondering if Agnes had any other relatives that would have came to America and settled in Chicago. Any help that you can provide would most helpful. Thnak you so much!!
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:18 am
Post subject: My Family-Cencula
I am looking find any information on my Great-grand parents Andrew Cenula and Rozalia Cencula(Kendrzierski). I believe they were from the town of Czarny Dunajec, Poland. Also any Information on Agnes Cencula she was Andrew's mother.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:24 am
Post subject: Re: My Family-Cencula
| sasha0223 wrote: | | I am looking find any information on my Great-grand parents Andrew Cenula and Rozalia Cencula(Kendrzierski). I believe they were from the town of Czarny Dunajec, Poland. Also any Information on Agnes Cencula she was Andrew's mother. |
In my previous post I told you that I found a church marriage record for Andrzej Cencula and Rozalia Kedziorska according to which Rozalia Kedziorska’s parents were Pawla/Pawel (Paul) Kedziorski and Katarzyna Haberna [Chaberna]. According to the marriage record, Andrzej Cencula and Rozalia Kedziorska were from Czarny Dunajec.
At the Ellis Island site I found the following Haberna emigrants who were from Podczerwone, Koniowka, and Czarny Dunajec, while the Cenculas emigrants I found last time were from Stary (= most likely Stare Bystre), Pekelsick (= most likely Piekielnik), and Czarny Dunajec:
Name, Residence, Age, Born, Arrived
1 Haberna, Agnieska Pod..., Galicia [Podczerwone] 24 1889 1913
2 Haberna, Anna Kamiowo Ke, Austria [Koniowka] 18 1895 1913
3 Haberna, Hannscha Czarnydunajec 2 1895 1897
4 Haberna, Henandra Podczerwone 18 1888 1906
5 Haberna, Jan Czarnydunajec 4 1893 1897
6 Haberna, Kunig'a. Kunowka [Koniowka] 19 1883 1902
7 Haberna, Ratarzyna Czarnydunajec 37 1860 1897
8 Haberna, Stanislaw Konionka [Koniowka] 24 1878 1902
9 Haberna, Uraniscek Pod..., Galicia [Podczerwone] 7 1906 1913
10 Haberna, Wbadzslaw Pod..., Galicia [Podczerwone] 1 1912 1913
11 Haberna, Zeofia Kamjonka, Austria [Koniowka] 22 1882 1904
I didn't have time to have a look at each passenger record to see who they indicated they stayed with before emigration and who they were going to join in the US (another source of discovering family connections), but at least it shows that they were all from the same area, just a few villages away from each other:
http://www.maplandia.com/poland/malopolske/nowy-targ/koniowka/
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:32 am
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Thank so much for your help. I have not from any other forum members that lived in Nowy Targ. Is that because you have been helping me. Again not quite sure how this forum works.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:16 am
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| sasha0223 wrote: | | Thank so much for your help. I have not from any other forum members that lived in Nowy Targ. Is that because you have been helping me. Again not quite sure how this forum works. |
I've been trying to help you with your family research, but the information available online is limited, and trying to find out if and how the families are related, if there were any siblings, aunts, or uncles, and if there is a connection between the Chicago and the Ohio Cenculas with what is available through the Internet requires a lot of time and patience and still may not be successful. To find answers to the questions you have about your ancestors you will have to write to the parish that your ancestors most likely attended before emigration. The Stare Bystre and Podczerwone records should be in the Czarny Dunajec parish, where the Koniowka and Piekielnik parish records are I don't know. I hope one of our members knows and can also give you the address of the Czarny Dunajec parish.
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:40 pm
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I am sorry I guess am a little impatient. I am very thankful for all that you are doing. I got excited that there was a response to my first posting and wanted more to keep coming. Unfortunately no one else has dug this far into our history like you have and again I appreciate it. I agree it is a time consuming process. I will try to research the Czarny Dunajec parish. Again I apologize for being impatient.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:19 am
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| sasha0223 wrote: | - Thank so much for your help. I have not from any other forum members that lived in Nowy Targ. Is that because you have been helping me. Again not quite sure how this forum works.
- I am sorry I guess am a little impatient. I am very thankful for all that you are doing. I got excited that there was a response to my first posting and wanted more to keep coming. Unfortunately no one else has dug this far into our history like you have and again I appreciate it. I agree it is a time consuming process. I will try to research the Czarny Dunajec parish. Again I apologize for being impatient. |
sasha0223,
I'm glad I was able to help you, and there's no reason to apologize for your impatience. I’m sure many of our members of PolishOrigins have made the experience that family research is a time consuming process that often takes years, and many of us know this impatience. When you post a query, you can be lucky and someone will respond and have information on the family names you are researching or will direct you to sources where you can will find it, but it's not guaranteed.
Sometimes there is simply no information available online, and that's why nobody responds to your query.
You have some good leads already and you should really write a letter to the Czarny Dunajec parish to see if they have records on your family. The address is Rynek 34, 34-470 Czarny Dunajec, Poland. I’m not sure, but I think the name of the church is Holy Trinity. Second writings should be in the Krakow Roman Catholic Archives, ul. Franciszkanska 3, 31-004 Krakow, Poland. Your letter has to be in Polish (there are Polish letter writing guides on the Internet or perhaps one of our members can help you with this).
Have seen Bill Rushin's forum section on “Polish Gorals – Highlanders” that you will find here: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewforum.php?f=29 and Shellie's thread that holds a lot of information on Czarny Dunajec that I'm sure will be interesting to you. There's a surname list associated with Czarny Dunajec and I saw the family names Kednerce and Kendzirski [Kedziorski??] in that list. The link to the thread is http://polishorigins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=370
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:38 pm
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I found the following Cencula obituaries in the Chicago Tribune Historical Archive. Are you familiar with any of these names? I can send you the full text of the obituaries if you think it will be helpful in your research
1979-04-28
Chicago Tribune (IL)
CENCULA
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Anna Cencula, nee Pozdol, beloved wife of John; dearest mother of Donald (Shirley) and the late John Jr.; dear grandmother of many; fond sister of Walter (Mary) Pozdol and Victoria (Eugene) Pope.
1973-11-21
Chicago Tribune (IL)
CENCULA
Edition: Chicago Tribune
John Cencula Jr., beloved husband of Rita, nee Murray; dearest father of Thomas, Richard, Dan and John Ill; dear son of John Sr. and Anna, nee Pozdol; fond brother of Donald (Shirley);
1984-03-12
Chicago Tribune (IL)
CENCULA
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Harriette G. Cencula, beloved wife of the late John; dear mother of Richard, Dan, John and Thomas; grandmother of five; sister of Mary Dias and Marguerite LaFrance; daughter of the late Eugene and Eliza (nee Callahan) Murray.
1977-12-02
Chicago Tribune (IL)
KLIMAS
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Joseph R. Klimas, beloved husband of Katherine (Blanche), nee Ciezadlo; father of Doris Backley, John Cencula, Jerome Cencula and Arthur Cencula; brother of Cecelia Berggren and Roy;
1967-07-20
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Pozdol
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Stanley Pozdol beloved brother of Anna [John] Cencula, Victoria [Eugene] Pope, Walter [Mary], Joseph, and Edward [Ruth];
1962-03-03
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Pozdol
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Phillip A. Pozdol, dear brother of Anna [John] Cencula, Sophia [Michael] Jaroch, Victoria [Eugene] Pope, Stanley, Joseph, Walter [Mary], Michael, and Edward [Ruth].
1967-12-05
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Buczko
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Bruno Buczko, beloved husband of Stephanie, nee Piska; dearest father of Richard [Marlene], Kenneth, Shirley [Donald] Cencula, Arlene, and Sandra;
1954-02-28
Chicago Tribune (IL)
STOPKA
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Victoria Stopka, nee Nalezna of 937 N. Willard, court, beloved mother of John, Caroline Ardito, Mary La Morte, Frank and Stanley, dear sister of Frances Nalezna, Caroline Cencula, and Sophie Brainner, and Catherine Bogacz, Tillie Glanacy, and Valeria Dzierlega in Poland,
1946-10-05
Chicago Tribune (IL)
CENCULA
Edition: Chicago Tribune
--Bruno Cencula, late of 2022 N. Wolcott avenue, beloved husband of Catherine Blanche, loving father of John, Jerome, and Arthur, dear son of Michael and Caroline, fond brother of Helen Radziewicz.
1955-03-21
Chicago Tribune (IL)
CENCULA
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Caroline Cencula, beloved wife of the late Michael; dearest mother of Helen Roskie; mother-in-law of Alex Roskie...
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:25 pm
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I do not reconize any of those Cencula names but I think those are the one I might be lated to. I will check out the 2 links that you provided and I will send a letter to both of the parishes you gave. Thanks again!
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:48 pm
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As I dig more into to this I notice 1 connection between the Cencula's of Illinois and the Cencula's of Ohio and it is my grandfather's godmother Sophie Cencula. I found a Sophie who lived in the Chicago area and was married to a Frank Cencula. It shows that Frank's father was Thomas and no mother mentioned. Any information on these 3 Cencula's??
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:11 am
Post subject: Re: My family-Cencula
| sasha0223 wrote: | | As I dig more into to this I notice 1 connection between the Cencula's of Illinois and the Cencula's of Ohio and it is my grandfather's godmother Sophie Cencula. I found a Sophie who lived in the Chicago area and was married to a Frank Cencula. It shows that Frank's father was Thomas and no mother mentioned. Any information on these 3 Cencula's?? |
sasha0223,
Are you referring to this Frank Cencula family?
1910 Cencus:
Name: Frank Cencula
Birthplace: Austria
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Residence: Chicago Ward 17, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race : White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1902
Father's Birthplace: Austria
Mother's Birthplace: Austria
Family Number: 399
Page Number: 22
Household Gender Age
Frank Cencula M 30y
Spouse Sophie Cencula F 23y
Child John Cencula M 5y
Child Edward Cencula M 2y
Child Laudislaus Cencula M 7m
Source: "United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKZ3-MND : accessed 11 May 2012), Frank Cencula, Chicago Ward 17, Cook, Illinois.
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Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947:
Name: Frank Cencula
Titles and Terms (original):
Death Date: 04 Jun 1940
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Race or Color:
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: 1879
Birth Date: 04 Dec 1879
Birthplace: Poland
Father: Thomas Cencula
Father's Titles and Terms (original):
Father's Birth Place: Poland
Mother:
Mother's Titles and Terms (original):
Mother's Birth Place: Poland
Occupation:
Residence: Chicago, Cook, IL
Street Address:
Spouse: Sophie
Spouse's Titles and Terms (original):
Spouse's Birthplace:
Burial Date: 08 Jun 1940
Burial Place: Niles, Cook, IL
Cemetery: St. Adalberts
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Digital Folder Number: 4205279
Image Number: 2073
Film Number: 1953579
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: rn 16806
Source:
"Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3HS-HLN : accessed 11 May 2012), Frank Cencula, 1940.
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The Dziennik Chicagoski 1930-1971 Death Notice Index has Cencula, Franciszek, who passed away 4 Jun 1940, date of notice 5 Jun 1940; and Cencula, Zofia with a note: see Felder, Zofia who passed away 9 Nov 1945, date of notice 10 Nov 1945. She may have been remarried to a Felder after Franciszek Cencula died.
According to the Marriage Index for Polish Parishes in Chicago through 1915 a Cencula, Frank married a Stercula, Sophie 1-20-1903 at St. John Cantius Church. According to the church marriage record Franciszek Cencula was from Stare Bystre in the district of Nowy Targ, his parents were Tomasz Cencula and Maryanna (last name not given); Zofia was from "Richy"* in the district of Nowy Targ, her parents were Wincenty Sterkula and Marya Zazycka. Witnesses were Jan Cencula and Stanislaw Stopka.
I'm attaching the church marriage record for you.
Source: www.FamilySearch.org, Illinois, Chicago, Catholic Church Records, 1833-1925, St. John Cantius (Chicago), Marriages, 1894-1909, Image 180 of 535.
Has anyone heard of a place named "Richy" in the district of Nowy Targ? I assume it is "Ciche". The last name also could be Styrcula instead of Sterkula.
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