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cath
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Your help needed to identify this location near Libiaz. Reply with quote

Thank you very much. It is in Malopolski, Poland. The year is 1871. It is the baptismal site of John Idzik Smile


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to decipher if one doesn't more words to compare the letters. My guess it is Jawiszowice.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cath,

I googled "Libiaz, Poland" and used a site: wolframalpha.com

It gave the names of several villages/towns surrounding Libiaz Malopolskie

The only entry that started with a "J" is Jaworzno, Slaskie which is 8 miles north of Libiaz.

It doesn't look exactly like the word on your document, but it may be a possibility!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, all! Here are more handwriting photos to help decipher town near Libiaz in 1871.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another handwriting sample....


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cath wrote:
Thank you, all! Here are more handwriting photos to help decipher town near Libiaz in 1871.


These are given names and surnames:
Onufry
Catharina
Ludovicus
Maria
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cath wrote:
Another handwriting sample....


The second place listed is Czarny Dunajec. It is about 70 miles away from Libiaz.
The second name after Ja..... is Nowy.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is correct. Thank you.

Onufry Idzik
Catharina Tuzow (Tusa)
Ludwick Samiczak
Maria Szaflarski (a)
Czarny Dunajec

Now for the dots between the JA... and NOWY Smile

It's like Wheel of Fortune or Hangman.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I thought the second name was Nowy. I thought the first part of the word was Jary...At the Stetl Seeker I did find a town that might fit, but it's not in Malopolskie. It's Jaryczów Nowy. I don't know that a town of that name exists now, but in 1900 it was Jaryczów Nowy, Lwów, Galicia, Austrian Empire. In 1930 it was Jaryczów Nowy, Lwów, Poland. Now it is in the Ukraine. I hesitated to throw my 2 cents in. I don't think the cursive writing looks EXACTLY like Jaryczów - it was just the only thing I came up with. I had gone to Ellis Island gold, to type the first few letters of the village name to see what I would come up with. This village's name wasn't always spelled correctly, like they often aren't. One example was Jarychownowy - all one word. I'm assuming the M. in the baptismal record was for Malopolskie, so this does not fit. But is that Jan Idzik on a ship manifest that gave the name of his brother Jozef Idzik as his contact back home, and was Jozef living in Lwów?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Cheri, my grandfather is Jan Idzik who listed his brother Josef Idzik who was living in Lwow Smile

My grandfather always lists Libiaz as his birthplace but Josef lists Lwow as his birthplace.

A source for the Tuzow name says it is from the Ukraine. I think Lwow may be the home of My great grandmother, Katarzyna Tuzow.

I like the way Jaryczow Nowy fits...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is definitely Jaryczow! Josef Idzik's Baltimore manifest says he lives in Jaryczowa in clear writing. (Previously, in error, I had looked at the line below which said Dombrowka) Excellent...THANK YOU!!!!

Josef says he is RUTHENIAN. What does that mean in 1870-1907 ?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cath wrote:
It is definitely Jaryczow! Josef Idzik's Baltimore manifest says he lives in Jaryczowa in clear writing. (Previously, in error, I had looked at the line below which said Dombrowka) Excellent...THANK YOU!!!!

Josef says he is RUTHENIAN. What does that mean in 1870-1907 ?


Here is a map where you can see Jaryczow Nowy. Enjoy it"
As to Ruthenian: http://donhoward.net/genpoland/gal.htm

Gilberto



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is very helpful, Gilberto! I am learning so much. Much gratitude.
I have sent for Jaryczow Nowy church films from Family Search. If anyone else wants me to do look-ups while I have access, please let me know!
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