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                                        <title>Re: Finding the rigth church</title>
                                        <link>https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=11511#11511</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2608'&gt;Elzbieta Porteneuve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:26 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Telly wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Magroski49 wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Telly wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Hi&lt;br /&gt;
My first post, tried to post just now but it seems to have disappeared.&lt;br /&gt;
Am travelling to Poland tomorrow, going to to Bobrek, Bytom one day next week.  I know my father was born there in 1914, so the question I have, is there any way I can locate the church he would have been baptised in?  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Telly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Which Bytom? Which Bobrek? Both names appears for three different places.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;born there&amp;quot; means Bobrek or means Bytom?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gilberto&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for replying.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have a copy abbreviated birth certificate dated 1950.  The English translation reads birth at 'Bobrek Karb, county Bytom.'   The original polish copy reads 'Bobrku-Karbie, powiat Bytom'  The birth was registered 12 April 1914.  At the top of the translation it reads Palatinate Silesia Dabrowa, County Bytom.  Civil Registry Bobrek-Karb No. 135/1914.  The original Polish reads 'Wojewodztwo Sl-D.browskie. Powiat Bytom.  It also reads Bobrek-Karb on the original Polish.  If I had time I would scan.&lt;br /&gt;
Please note that it has been translated by a certified translator who was a Foreign Law Consultant and Translator.&lt;br /&gt;
My first search of the internet found a Bobrek, but was not near Bytom.  So I therefore searched for Bytom, then found a Bobrek close by.  I hope this is the right one as I'm going there on Tuesday.  Is there another possibility?  I am flying out today, will check on line to see if there are any updates.  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for any information.&lt;br /&gt;
Regards&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Telly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Polish wiki is explicit&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmina_Bobrek-Karb&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmina_Bobrek-Karb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since 1951 it is part of Bytom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A little more here, still in Polish, history going back to 1369&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobrek_&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobrek_&lt;/a&gt;(Bytom)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your original Polish copy is correct.&lt;br /&gt;
I do hope your translations is correct as well, no matter translator was lawyer or not, provided he had a little knowledge in history in that part of Europe.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Searching parish:&lt;br /&gt;
Bobrek należał pierwotnie do parafii w Miechowicach - originaly Bobrek was part of the parish Miechowice&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miechowice&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miechowice&lt;/a&gt; about village&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Parish in Miechowice&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swkrzyz.bytom.pl/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=article&amp;amp;id=121&amp;amp;Itemid=94&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.swkrzyz.bytom.pl/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=article&amp;amp;id=121&amp;amp;Itemid=94&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
...&lt;br /&gt;
Księgi&lt;br /&gt;
Parafia prowadzi księgi:&lt;br /&gt;
- chrztów od 1767 r.&lt;br /&gt;
- ślubów od 1764 r.&lt;br /&gt;
- zgonów od 1768 r.&lt;br /&gt;
They have books of baptism, marriages, and death sinc 176x.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address:&lt;br /&gt;
Parafia p.w. św. Krzyża                                                   &lt;br /&gt;
41-908 Bytom Miechowice, ul. Ks. Jana Frenzla 42&lt;br /&gt;
telefon: (32) 286-36-51&lt;br /&gt;
==&amp;gt; the international phone number is +48 32 286 36 51&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swkrzyz.bytom.pl&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.swkrzyz.bytom.pl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All parishes in today Bytom&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msze.bytom.pl/msze-bytomskie.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.msze.bytom.pl/msze-bytomskie.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
For Miechowice it's noted:&lt;br /&gt;
Parafia Krzyża Świętego &lt;br /&gt;
Proboszcz: ks. Bartosz Podhajecki, ul. ks. Frenzla 42, tel.: 32 286 36 51&lt;br /&gt;
==&amp;gt; the international phone number is +48 32 286 36 51&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I wish you an excellent travel, and good search in Bytom.&lt;br /&gt;
Best,&lt;br /&gt;
Elzbieta</description>
                                        <comments>https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=11511#11511</comments>
                                        <author>Elzbieta Porteneuve</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:26 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Finding the rigth church</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3274'&gt;Telly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:56 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Magroski49 wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Telly wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Hi&lt;br /&gt;
My first post, tried to post just now but it seems to have disappeared.&lt;br /&gt;
Am travelling to Poland tomorrow, going to to Bobrek, Bytom one day next week.  I know my father was born there in 1914, so the question I have, is there any way I can locate the church he would have been baptised in?  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Telly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Which Bytom? Which Bobrek? Both names appears for three different places.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;born there&amp;quot; means Bobrek or means Bytom?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gilberto&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for replying.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have a copy abbreviated birth certificate dated 1950.  The English translation reads birth at 'Bobrek Karb, county Bytom.'   The original polish copy reads 'Bobrku-Karbie, powiat Bytom'  The birth was registered 12 April 1914.  At the top of the translation it reads Palatinate Silesia Dabrowa, County Bytom.  Civil Registry Bobrek-Karb No. 135/1914.  The original Polish reads 'Wojewodztwo Sl-D.browskie. Powiat Bytom.  It also reads Bobrek-Karb on the original Polish.  If I had time I would scan.&lt;br /&gt;
Please note that it has been translated by a certified translator who was a Foreign Law Consultant and Translator.&lt;br /&gt;
My first search of the internet found a Bobrek, but was not near Bytom.  So I therefore searched for Bytom, then found a Bobrek close by.  I hope this is the right one as I'm going there on Tuesday.  Is there another possibility?  I am flying out today, will check on line to see if there are any updates.  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for any information.&lt;br /&gt;
Regards</description>
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                                        <author>Telly</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:56 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Finding the rigth church</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=-1'&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:12 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Telly wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Hi&lt;br /&gt;
My first post, tried to post just now but it seems to have disappeared.&lt;br /&gt;
Am travelling to Poland tomorrow, going to to Bobrek, Bytom one day next week.  I know my father was born there in 1914, so the question I have, is there any way I can locate the church he would have been baptised in?  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Telly,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Which Bytom? Which Bobrek? Both names appears for three different places.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;born there&amp;quot; means Bobrek or means Bytom?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gilberto</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:12 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Finding the rigth church</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3274'&gt;Telly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:41 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi&lt;br /&gt;
My first post, tried to post just now but it seems to have disappeared.&lt;br /&gt;
Am travelling to Poland tomorrow, going to to Bobrek, Bytom one day next week.  I know my father was born there in 1914, so the question I have, is there any way I can locate the church he would have been baptised in?  &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks</description>
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                                        <author>Telly</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:41 pm</pubDate>
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