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Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:43 am

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:43 am

Beatta wrote:

UNB - unbroken - nieokreślony ?
Beatta

I looked up the source https://www.its-arolsen.org/

The acronym UNB does not exist in ITS-Arolsen neither in Abbreviations (which are mostly from German language), nor in Glossary.

That code is in Polish line about the place of birth:
miejsce urodzenia (państwo) UNB

Unknown in English
Unbekannt in German

Guessing indicates rather 3 letters from German than English.

Anyway it is unbekkant/unknown/nieznany in their archives, as the international coding systems for countries or passeports were not existing yet at that time.

Best,
Elzbieta

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Beatta — Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:29 pm

Author: Beatta

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:29 pm

UNB - unbroken - nieokreślony ?
Beatta

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:27 am

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:27 am

Magroski49 wrote:

As to Baranowicze, since I found a Magrowski family from Lodz who lived there too, I have seen many and many people who were born somewhere else and went to Baranowicze. Just curious to know what was so attractive in Baranowicze that made many families moved.

Gilberto

Gilberto,

You made me curious too.
I knew Baranowicze as a place associated to Orzeszkowa, and a little bit to Mickiewicz.

After reading wiki, I think railway was one of possible answers for Baranowicze.

Coming back to Orzeszkowa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_Orzeszkowa

Orzeszkowa was a Polish writer, pozitivism style, which I did hate when in school. All her books is a kind of paternalistic education of poor, going towards the brilliant future. Her characters have explicit names, so even an idiot is able to understand what she intended to demonstrate. She was very prolific writer, and one could not escape her boring stuff.

Best,
Elzbieta

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Anonymous — Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:04 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:04 am

Elzbieta Porteneuve wrote:

Jumping in your conversation.

Gilberto, I think that UNB in "straty" might be an English code for Unknown Birthplace, it is for children who were deported to Germany with their parents, then parents were taken away.

Anita, Baranowicze are circa 12 km from Stolovichi, both now in Belarus. It is circa 400 km (your 256 miles) east of Warsaw.

Gilberto, the places on Szaban's records are the place where they were arrested, followed by names of camps of prisoners: Krzywy Rog now Kryvyï Rih, Oblast Dnipropetrovsk, in Ukraina, and Rowne-Lwow now Rivne, in Ukraina.

Best,
Elzbieta

Elzbieta,

Thanks for clarifying. Anita has just sent the passports. Genowefa was born in Przytuly, pow. ostrolecki. I gave her directions to order a copy of her birth record at the USC in Rzekun.
Those Szaban I have found are not the ones of Anita's, because the birth year does not match.

As to Baranowicze, since I found a Magrowski family from Lodz who lived there too, I have seen many and many people who were born somewhere else and went to Baranowicze. Just curious to know what was so attractive in Baranowicze that made many families moved.

Gilberto

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

anitaszaban — Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:54 am

Author: anitaszaban

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:54 am

I do know that genowefa was taken frm her gandparents home in the middle of the night

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

anitaszaban — Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:53 am

Author: anitaszaban

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:53 am

any help greatly received, I have original passports with dates and places of birth on

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:46 am

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:46 am

Jumping in your conversation.

Gilberto, I think that UNB in "straty" might be an English code for Unknown Birthplace, it is for children who were deported to Germany with their parents, then parents were taken away.

Anita, Baranowicze are circa 12 km from Stolovichi, both now in Belarus. It is circa 400 km (your 256 miles) east of Warsaw.

Gilberto, the places on Szaban's records are the place where they were arrested, followed by names of camps of prisoners: Krzywy Rog now Kryvyï Rih, Oblast Dnipropetrovsk, in Ukraina, and Rowne-Lwow now Rivne, in Ukraina.

Best,
Elzbieta

help

anitaszaban — Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:28 am

Author: anitaszaban

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:28 am

here is my private emal if u message me on their I can send documents to view ? anitaszaban@hotmail.com

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Anonymous — Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:12 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:12 am

Anita,

There are nothing less than 13 Przytuly. However, I am inclined to think it could be this one:
woj. mazowieckie
pow. makowski
gmina Krasnosielc

It lies about 20 miles Myszniec, where some Bogunieck lived about 1900. There I found the birth of a Adolf Bogunieck, in 1905. If he married at 20 years old or so, he could be Genowefa's father. Does the passport tellher parents' names?

Gilberto

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

anitaszaban — Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:37 am

Author: anitaszaban

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:37 am

anitaszaban wrote:

Magroski49 wrote:

anitaszaban wrote:

the other are mentioned was lipney staire.

Could you clarify this? There is a place named Lipniki Stare, in pultusk powiat, mazowieckie province.

Gilberto

Hi many thanks for your efforts in helping me, all I have is names written on paper that are hard to read ?
I was led to believe Jan Szaban lived on a farm with his parents maybe about 256 miles of warsaw, The name Stolowice which changed to Stolovichy and is now in Belarus may of been where he was from ?

Where Genowefa's family lived was about 15 miles from warsaw ?
I do have some documents I will try and look for them shortly x

I have found 3 passports, 2 for genowefa I uk and 1 polish in the uk passport it statesplace and date of birth as 9.9.26 PRZYTULY
jan's uk passport states 8.8.24 BARANOWICZE

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

anitaszaban — Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:31 am

Author: anitaszaban

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:31 am

Magroski49 wrote:

anitaszaban wrote:

the other are mentioned was lipney staire.

Could you clarify this? There is a place named Lipniki Stare, in pultusk powiat, mazowieckie province.

Gilberto

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Anonymous — Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:10 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:10 pm

anitaszaban wrote:

the other are mentioned was lipney staire.

Could you clarify this? There is a place named Lipniki Stare, in pultusk powiat, mazowieckie province.

Gilberto

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Anonymous — Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:53 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:53 pm

Jan's brother

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Anonymous — Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:51 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:51 pm

Maybe this one is your Jan?

Re: Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

Anonymous — Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:46 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:46 pm

anitaszaban wrote:

Hi the name Maria Gajewsk would of been my grandmother but know nothing about her as my mother Genowefa Boguniecka was taken out of Poland when she was young. Never really understood the full story.

Genowefa settled in kidderminster in the UK, married another fellow polish man Jan Szaban. His family was also Split up, never found Jan brother, his sister ended up in America unsure of the parents of either person. the other are mentioned was lipney staire.
I would love to be able to gather any information on these people.

ay help greatly received Anita Szaban

Anita,

No idea what UNB stands for.
Gilberto

Baranovichy near Minsk - Maria Gajewska

anitaszaban — Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Author: anitaszaban

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Hi the name Maria Gajewsk would of been my grandmother but know nothing about her as my mother Genowefa Boguniecka was taken out of Poland when she was young. Never really understood the full story.

Genowefa settled in kidderminster in the UK, married another fellow polish man Jan Szaban. His family was also Split up, never found Jan brother, his sister ended up in America unsure of the parents of either person. the other are mentioned was lipney staire.
I would love to be able to gather any information on these people.

ay help greatly received Anita Szaban