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Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:38 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:38 pm

Letting all of you know, that thanks to your help, figured out the town, it is Skrzypne, Poland. Thanks!!

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:14 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:14 pm

These are my great grandparents, Jacob Jamryk, and Mary Wyroba, in traditional dress. Will this help us narrow things down?

Thanks

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

stanleyhetz — Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:10 pm

Author: stanleyhetz

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:10 pm

stanleyhetz wrote:

I don't know if this might have been one of our grandfather's siblings: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hyc

I wonder if it would be possible to see if he had a brother named Stanislaw born two years earlier. Would anybody please check? Thanks!

I would appreciate any assistance. I don't have access to some of the Polish databanks that some members on here might have.

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

stanleyhetz — Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:58 pm

Author: stanleyhetz

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:58 pm

I don't know if this might have been one of our grandfather's siblings: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hyc

I wonder if it would be possible to see if he had a brother named Stanislaw born two years earlier. Would anybody please check? Thanks!

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:41 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:41 pm

Magroski49 wrote:

Ads,

He lists Zakopane as birthplace and last residence as well. Novatark is the misspelling for Nowy Targ.
He was preceeded by a Jozef Hyc in 1907, also from Zakopane, who was going to meet his sister Aniela.
Maybe Stanislaw's siblings.

I have found Tekla Wyroba in EI database (1913) and she declared her birthplace as Poronin, 2 miles nort of Zakopane.
That was Galicia by then. No records online, so far.
Poronin
siedziba gminy
3661 osób
woj. małopolskie
pow. tatrzański
gmina Poronin
kod: 34-520
prefiks tel.: 18
Her father is listed as Jan Antol and she was going to meet her sister Mary.

Gilberto

I bet you are on to something with the siblings. My grandfather named his one son, Joseph! Thank you for the tip!! I appreciate it!

Re: I am also looking for the same family history.

stanleyhetz — Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:36 pm

Author: stanleyhetz

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:36 pm

PolishLibrarian wrote:

stanleyhetz wrote:

This is my grandfather when he came to the United States from Zakopane. Jan Hyc and Sophia Blahuta were his parents. Does anybody have any information about names of his brothers and/or sisters? Thank you!

stanleyhetz~ It sounds like you and ads are first cousins. ads didn't give us any info. on Stanley Hyc besides his parents (no siblings, etc.), so maybe ads doesn't know that piece. Perhaps you should send ads a Private Message (pm) and inquire. ~PL

Thank you. She is my cousin. She and I both know the names of my grandfather's parents, but we don't know anything about his siblings. I know that there has been more than one Jan Hyc in Zakopane, so that makes it difficult for somebody like me in the USA to research the topic.

Re: I am also looking for the same family history.

PolishLibrarian — Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:26 pm

Author: PolishLibrarian

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:26 pm

stanleyhetz wrote:

I am also looking for the same family history.

stanleyhetz — Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:55 pm

Author: stanleyhetz

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:55 pm

This is my grandfather when he came to the United States from Zakopane. Jan Hyc and Sophia Blahuta were his parents. Does anybody have any information about names of his brothers and/or sisters? Thank you!

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:42 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:42 pm

Oh my gosh you all are just fantastic!! I really appreciate all of this. I now have something to go on. Thank you all so much!

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

PolishLibrarian — Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:12 am

Author: PolishLibrarian

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:12 am

Could the town be Skrzypne? See below yesterday's map revised. Międzyczerwienne (apparently now the name of a Hill or Mountain as other peaks in the Tatrys are also represented by the triangle), is represented by the triangle in the perfect red circle to the left (west) of Skrzypne and just above the village of Czerwienne.

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

Ute — Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:09 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:09 am

Magroski49 wrote:

I found a Jakob Jamryc coming from Miedzyczerwiennie, which is around Nowy Targ and Czarny Dunajec.
There is a Szuflary place near Czarny, so I think this is the area. (includes Zab, Poronin, Sierockie, and Stopki, a possible ancestral place for the Stopka family).

Gilberto

Jamryk and Jamrych (also spelled Jambrych, Ambrych) are old Podhale surnames that occured in the district of Nowy Targ as early as 1637 in the village Maruszyna. Later it was also found in the villages Banska, Skrzypne, Bialy Dunajec, Nowe Bystre, Stare Bystre, Maruszyna, Miedzyczerwienne, and Lasek. These are all small villages located close together between Nowy Targ and Zakopane.

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

Anonymous — Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:20 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:20 am

I found a Jakob Jamryc coming from Miedzyczerwiennie, which is around Nowy Targ and Czarny Dunajec.
There is a Szuflary place near Czarny, so I think this is the area. (includes Zab, Poronin, Sierockie, and Stopki, a possible ancestral place for the Stopka family).

Gilberto

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

Ute — Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:03 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:03 am

Maybe it was Szczawnica in the district of Nowy Targ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmina_Szczawnica

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:35 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:35 pm

PolishLibrarian wrote:

Did the family ever say anything about a place Szepknia was near? ~PL

If they did, that knowledge has not come down to me. All Uncle Stanley said was they were from Szepknia Poland, and nothing was known other than Jacobs father was blind and died in a fire cause he couldn't get out.

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

PolishLibrarian — Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:29 pm

Author: PolishLibrarian

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:29 pm

Did the family ever say anything about a place Szepknia was near? ~PL

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:21 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:21 pm

Looking for family part 2

Thank you all for your help so far in this quest.

I am geography challenged, and can not speak or read Polish, and I have tried to learn it over the years.
Now for my Great Grandmother MaryAnn Wyroba's husband and his family.

Grandfather Yamrick's name was Jacob Yamryk or Yamrick in English. My great uncle Stanley told me it was Jamryk in Polish. He also told me the Jamryk family was from Szepknia, Poland. I can not find a Szepknia any where. I am wondering if this is an attempt to
spell it and in Polish it would be different. I am wondering also if the spelling of the Jamryk is different.

Regardless, Grandfathers family were

Jan Jamryk, (abt 1855) born in Poland He married Mary Stopka, or Stopko, she was also born in Poland.

I got that information off of my Great grandfathers death certificate, and off of his brothers death certificate.

Jan and Mary had the following children

a daughter, name and dates unknown, she died young.
Jacob- my great grandfather who was born Aug of 1879, and came to USA in 1903. He died April 13, 1922. He was a coal miner.
John-born 1880, and came to USA, he died in 1969 He was a coal miner
Frank-born 1881 came to USA and died 1971-was a coal miner
Charles born 1896 came to USA and died 1944-was a coal miner.

Besides trying to find the Szepknia, which I can not find, I can not find a Jamryk anywhere.

To me this is very upsetting, for more than one reason.

As strange as this may sound, It is almost if the men in the family were under a curse because
Grandfather Jacob commited suicide, he lit a stick of dynamite and laid on top of it. He was buried in a potters field, in an unmarked grave. That was 1922

Then Uncle Charles, was hit by a car in 1944, died 2 days later from fractures to his skull, an arm, and both legs. Buried in an unmarked grave.

Grandfather Jan died when his home caught on fire, he was blind and could not see to get out. Uncle Stanley remembered that from when he was a child.

Uncle Frank, committed suicide. He shot himself.

Uncle John died in a fire.

Of my greatgrandparents Jacob and Mary Ann's children, their children lived without dying like that, but several of their grandchildren with the name John, or Jacob seemed to die tragic early deaths, by drowning, struck by cars, bleeding to death, and so on.

I believe that with all the tragedy going on, that much information was lost on where the family came from and so on.

Any help or ideas would truly be appreciated.

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:47 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:47 pm

Thank You so much Elzbieta! I really appreciate that. I certainly was having a hard time with the Yosius! I have corrected that info now on my tree. Thank you for your help!

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:34 pm

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:34 pm

Ads,

I looked up all family names, all but one are correct.

The troublemaker is Yosius.
“Y” - “J” in Polish, but it is not the only modification in that name.

The closest I could guess is Jośko or Jóśko
Jośko: 624 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/jo%25C5%259Bko.html
Jóśko: 109 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/j%25C3%25B3%25C5%259Bko.html

Other names:

Hyc: 179 persons with that name in today Poland, Nowy Targ and Zakopane
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/hyc.html

Sofia Blahuta => probably Zofia Błahuta
Błahuta: 241 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/b%25C5%2582ahuta.html

Wyroba: 942 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/wyroba.html

Katazina Yosius – given name Katarzyna, Jośko?

Ann Hromiec (Hromiec and Chromiec spells the same in Polish, correct version is Chromiec)
Chromiec: 550 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/chromiec.html

Suski: 2820 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/suski.html

Antol: 180 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/antol.html

Villages in Podhale:

Village Szaflary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szaflary

Parish Szaflary
http://www.owczarnia.diecezja.pl/index.php

Village Poronin
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poronin

Village Ząb
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z%C4%85b_%28wojew%C3%B3dztwo_ma%C5%82opolskie%29

Community Nowy Targ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowy_Targ

I guess your great aunts were going to Szaflary or Ząb or Poronin.
One week there, you will fall in love with this beautiful area.

Good luck,
Elzbieta

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

ads — Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Author: ads

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Thank You both so much!!! Your information is so valuable!! This has now given me more information to work with and I really appreciate it!! Hopefully you all can help me with my search for the Jamryk/Yarmrick/Yamryk side as I have a total blank on it. I will be posting that info later, as soon as I get it organized.
Thank you both again for you help!!

Re: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland

PolishLibrarian — Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:52 pm

Author: PolishLibrarian

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:52 pm

ads~ Regarding your geography questions:
Zakopane Austria – prior to the end of WWI Zakopane was located in Galicia which was under Austrian rule
Novatark, Poland – as Gilberto said, this would be Nowy Targ, just 14 miles north of Zakopane (BTW my grandfather was from here)
Zoflary(?)Parrish Church Cemetery – this would be Szaflary, a town between Nowy Targ and Zakopane
buried in Zob, at Zoflary Parrish Church – I'm guessing this Zob is Ząb (pronounced Zomp), just west of Poronin (under the pink circle)
records were at the Zob Post Office, and that it is now called Sierockie – there is a village Sierockie just north of Ząb

I'm including a map from mapa.szukacz.pl that shows all of these towns (underlined in red) except Nowy Targ which is about 3.6 miles north of Szaflary on this map.

Hopefully others can give you more correct Polish spellings of the surnames. I don't believe parish records from this area are in any online Polish resource yet and only a couple of villages east of Nowy Targ have had their records microfilmed by the LDS church. You have quite a bit of information already. I only knew the names of my grandparents and a couple of their siblings who came to the U.S. Because the records from this area have not been microfilmed, I visited the churches in SW Poland and got further info on their siblings, parents and grandparents. Good luck. ~PL