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Re: Seeking info on Michal Born, Panska St Warsaw

Annie — Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:18 am

Author: Annie

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:18 am

Thank you Elzbieta for your interest and help. My husbands mother gave us all the addresses and names of her family. Unfortunately we have been unable to trace any of them over twenty years research including a visit to Warsaw Poland in 2008. My mother-in-law returned to Panksa Street and the building was leveled to the ground in the 1970's and it was the same when we visited in 2008. We are hoping that the post may generate some further clues of what happened to them. Norblin and Panska were very close to/ or part of the ghetto area.
Regards
Annie

Re: Seeking info on Michal Born, Panska St Warsaw

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:09 am

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:09 am

Annie wrote:

We have been trying to locate information on the following family for twenty years:

My husbands grandfather Michal Born was employed by the"Norblin Company" in Zelazna Ulitca in Warsaw prior to WW1 and during 1940's. He made church silverware and cultery. Michal Born, Stanislawa Wolinski and Aleksandra, his daughter lived in flat 109 in Panska Ulitca, Central 1, Warsawa. After Stanislawa's death Maria Chodkiewicz was living in the flat in Panksa Street

We believe that Michal Born was conscripted into the Tsar Army in Russia prior to 1905 and that he was of German descent, and as the thirteenth child in a protestant family he was christened in a Catholic Church because they were superstitious.

We also believe he came from Manheim. It is possible that he died in the Warsaw Uprising.

We have no details on Michal Born's parents. We know he was the youngest of thirteen children. We know three of his sister's names: Anna Born who married a widower Monczewski and lived in 46 Ulica Plocka, Warsaw; Zofia Born who married an Ebel, had two sons Gerard [an ex policeman - a daughter Hanna born 1924-25 and a son born in 1927] and Henryk. and lived in Izabelin on an orchard; Felitzia Born who married a Sulkowski, a prison Warden and had three sons Witold, Roman [a violinist and artist,and photographer] and Boleslaw, and lived with her sister Anna and husband in 46 Ulica Plocka, Warsaw -.

Hoping someone can help with details of this family
Regards
Annie

Annie,

Norblin Company, famous:
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zak%C5%82ad_Platerniczy_Norblin%C3%B3w

All adresses you provided are correct:
Pańska 109, Warszawa, Poland
Żelazna 51/53, Warszawa, Poland
Płocka 46, Warszawa, Poland
- the first two are in the very center of Warsaw.
Izabelin is very nice area, slightly in the north-west of Warsaw.

The name "Born" seems indeed of German origin, more than 6000 cases in Germany:
http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/born.html
and 191 Born in today Poland:
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/born.html

Geneteka's database shows several "Born" in Warsaw, but, alas, all links to scans are broken.
http://www.geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&rid=A&search_lastname=Born&exac=&from_date=&to_date=&w=71wa

I wish you find more.
Best,
Elzbieta

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Seeking info on Michal Born, Panska St Warsaw

Annie — Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:53 am

Author: Annie

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:53 am

We have been trying to locate information on the following family for twenty years:

My husbands grandfather Michal Born was employed by the"Norblin Company" in Zelazna Ulitca in Warsaw prior to WW1 and during 1940's. He made church silverware and cultery. Michal Born, Stanislawa Wolinski and Aleksandra, his daughter lived in flat 109 in Panska Ulitca, Central 1, Warsawa. After Stanislawa's death Maria Chodkiewicz was living in the flat in Panksa Street

We believe that Michal Born was conscripted into the Tsar Army in Russia prior to 1905 and that he was of German descent, and as the thirteenth child in a protestant family he was christened in a Catholic Church because they were superstitious.

We also believe he came from Manheim. It is possible that he died in the Warsaw Uprising.

We have no details on Michal Born's parents. We know he was the youngest of thirteen children. We know three of his sister's names: Anna Born who married a widower Monczewski and lived in 46 Ulica Plocka, Warsaw; Zofia Born who married an Ebel, had two sons Gerard [an ex policeman - a daughter Hanna born 1924-25 and a son born in 1927] and Henryk. and lived in Izabelin on an orchard; Felitzia Born who married a Sulkowski, a prison Warden and had three sons Witold, Roman [a violinist and artist,and photographer] and Boleslaw, and lived with her sister Anna and husband in 46 Ulica Plocka, Warsaw -.

Hoping someone can help with details of this family
Regards
Annie