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Re: indexes on LDS rolls

Podjazd — Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:23 pm

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:23 pm

dsherry wrote:

John,

Later records are very likely to have indexes and earlier ones often do. It varies from parish to parish. Before 1868 the indices are in the Roman alphabet which tends to make it relatively easy to find the desired records, assuming the handwriting is legible. After 1868 Russian/Cyrillic is most common though there are a few times I have seen the use of Roman alphabet.

With the Cyrillic I have found it helpful to print out an image of the surname I am looking for and compare that against the indices as I am looking at them. Many of the Russian records also include the Roman alphabet spelling of the key people in the vital record so that is a good way to confirm you have the right person. And it is a good way to get an image of the surname even if it is not your relative.

The translation from Polish to Russian can change where you are looking in the index. Wisniewski goes from the back of the alphabet to the front in Russian (where it is spelled using the second letter of the alphabet, equivalent to B) and Chojnicki goes from the front to the back where it begins with a letter peculiar to Cyrillic. It is not hard to use the indices after you get used to it. I tend to save images of the indices of the rolls I view at the FHC so I can go back later and see whether I missed anything.

Thank you for this! I will keep all this in mind if I decide to rent a film to search for records that don't seem to exist, but should.

Re: LDS microfilms

Podjazd — Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:20 pm

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:20 pm

Magroski49 wrote:

Podjazd wrote:

Gilberto,

Thanks for the info and tips on checking the online sites.

I did find the collection I'm looking for, but I get no results when I search any name. I'm looking for Podjazd, Forma, and Jarlik, but even when I try to search on a more common name I get zero results. Not sure why.

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ar13-zs0252d

John,

Many Forma in Grabowiec (see Geneteka)

Gilberto

Thanks. I found a way to find record by simply entering a year range and no names, and it gave me all the entries (presumably).

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the Jewish congregation's records are included. (I understood that up until 1825 there was a municipal registration for all faiths run by the Catholic congregation, but I'm not completely sure what is included in which indexes.)

indexes on LDS rolls

dsherry — Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:37 pm

Author: dsherry

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:37 pm

John,

Later records are very likely to have indexes and earlier ones often do. It varies from parish to parish. Before 1868 the indices are in the Roman alphabet which tends to make it relatively easy to find the desired records, assuming the handwriting is legible. After 1868 Russian/Cyrillic is most common though there are a few times I have seen the use of Roman alphabet.

With the Cyrillic I have found it helpful to print out an image of the surname I am looking for and compare that against the indices as I am looking at them. Many of the Russian records also include the Roman alphabet spelling of the key people in the vital record so that is a good way to confirm you have the right person. And it is a good way to get an image of the surname even if it is not your relative.

The translation from Polish to Russian can change where you are looking in the index. Wisniewski goes from the back of the alphabet to the front in Russian (where it is spelled using the second letter of the alphabet, equivalent to B) and Chojnicki goes from the front to the back where it begins with a letter peculiar to Cyrillic. It is not hard to use the indices after you get used to it. I tend to save images of the indices of the rolls I view at the FHC so I can go back later and see whether I missed anything.

Re: LDS microfilms

Anonymous — Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:47 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:47 am

Podjazd wrote:

John,

Many Forma in Grabowiec (see Geneteka)

Gilberto

Re: LDS microfilms

Podjazd — Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:32 am

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:32 am

Gilberto,

Thanks for the info and tips on checking the online sites.

I did find the collection I'm looking for, but I get no results when I search any name. I'm looking for Podjazd, Forma, and Jarlik, but even when I try to search on a more common name I get zero results. Not sure why.

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ar13-zs0252d

Re: LDS microfilms

Anonymous — Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:31 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:31 am

Podjazd wrote:

Hi

Does anyone have experience of renting microfilms from the LDS for use at a local family history center?

I am wondering if the films include an index (also on the film, I imagine), or is it a case of scrolling through hundreds of records to find the needle in the haystack?

If there is an index, is it user-friendly for a non-Polish/Russian speaker?

Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have.

John

Before renting a film, be sure the record you are looking for is not available in
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ or
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/ or
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/

Yes, films usually have an index in the following format:
births > births index, then marriages > marriages index, and then deaths > death index.
Usually the index is alphabetical order by surname, but I have seen by order of given name.
If in russian, some indexes are presented in both languages, though it is rare.
When looking indexes in russian, have in mind the alphabetical order changes accordingly to the russian alphabet.
Clues; polish surnames starting W (which is B, in russian) sometimes appear placed after letter A and sometimes by the end of the index (where we put letter W). Surnames starting Jo* are place as usual in J, but those starting Ja* are place by the end of the index, because "Ja' is a single letter in russian.

Gilberto

LDS microfilms

Podjazd — Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:20 am

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:20 am

Hi

Does anyone have experience of renting microfilms from the LDS for use at a local family history center?

I am wondering if the films include an index (also on the film, I imagine), or is it a case of scrolling through hundreds of records to find the needle in the haystack?

If there is an index, is it user-friendly for a non-Polish/Russian speaker?

Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have.

John