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Re: Przystas born in Frysztak

Sophia — Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:22 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:22 am

Thanks, Aga! So, Moikrewni is more up-to-date and it does present its data very nicely. I still like to start, though, over on the Herby site because it allows me to do "wildcard" searches, for example in this case Przyst* and see what spellings come up.

Gilberto, yes, I too had thought that Herby was based on a census.

Re: Przystas born in Frysztak

Anonymous — Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:18 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:18 am

Aga Pawlus wrote:

Sophia,

Moi Krewni is a database form 2002 (I do not know if it has been updated later), while Herby has data from 90' (it uses the information coded in PESEL numbers - personal identification numbers in Poland).

Aga

Aga and Sophia,

I remember to have read (some years ago) that Moi Krewni was based on the number of people who have a phone number (at home, not cell phones) and Herby was based on 1990 census. Have you ever heard something about this?

Gilberto

Re: Przystas born in Frysztak

Agnieszka Pawlus — Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:12 am

Author: Agnieszka Pawlus

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:12 am

Sophia,

Moi Krewni is a database form 2002 (I do not know if it has been updated later), while Herby has data from 90' (it uses the information coded in PESEL numbers - personal identification numbers in Poland).

Aga

Re: Przystas born in Frysztak

Sophia — Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:21 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:21 am

Hi Aga,

I like the surname distribution maps from www.moikrewni.pl that you posted. They provide slightly different numbers for each surname than what I found on herby.com.pl and I am guessing that yours is more recent than mine. Could you please tell me, what year is the moikrewni data from and what year is the herby.com.pl data from?

Thanks!
Sophia

Re: Przystas born in Frysztak

Agnieszka Pawlus — Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:35 am

Author: Agnieszka Pawlus

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:35 am

Lisa,

Accordingly to Hoffman's "Polish surnames" all thre variations come from the expression przestarzeć się, “to age, become older”. There is also the archaic word przystarz, which means “husband who settles on his wife’s farm”.

You can also see the location of Frysztak on the map: https://goo.gl/maps/8cCTakgTSCu and compare it with the surname distribution maps:
For Przystaś: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Przysta%C5%9B
For Przystasz: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Przystasz
For Przystarz: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Przystarz

Good luck in you research,
Aga

Re: Przystas born in Frysztak

Sophia — Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:05 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:05 pm

Hi Lisa,

It is a rather rare name. The final "s" likely has an accent mark over it, like this: Przystaś. There are other spellings which have quite similar pronunciations, such as Przystasz and Przystarz - - when I say similar pronunciation, I mean to an ear that is not used to the sounds of the Polish language. A Pole could tell them apart quite easily! If you follow this link to Google translate, http://translate.google.ca/?hl=en&tab=wT#pl/en/Przystas%0APrzysta%C5%9B%0APrzystasz%0APrzystarz and then click on the icon that looks like a speaker, you can hear them pronounced. A census in Poland from not too many years ago was used to count the number of people in the country who used various spellings of names, and the results were 179 for Przystaś, 62 for Przystarz and 239 for Przystasz. Compared with a total population of Poland of about 38 million, you can see why I call it a rare name.

Have you found any documents for your grandfather? For example, do you have a ship passenger list for him?

Best of luck in your search,
Sophia

Przystas born in Frysztak

lisabelaway@gmail.com — Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:28 pm

Author: lisabelaway@gmail.com

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:28 pm

Looking for information on the name Przystas. My grandfather was born in Frystak in 1892. Having a hard time finding any information. Help or suggestions most appreciated.
Lisa