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Re: microfilm

dnowicki — Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 am

Author: dnowicki

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 am

alfspt wrote:

Oh my. How can you order microfilm from the ledgers in Szczucin. I am looking for records from the Delestowice parish for the names Starodaj, Matuszczak and Grzywacz.Had the opportunity to stop at the church in Delestowice in 8/16 however the priest was quite obstructionist even though I had a translator. Would not allow me to look at records. Also stopped at the church in Szczucin and the older priest allowed us after much pleading 1 hr to look through the ledgers. I would like to get the microfilms so I can dig deeper and have some time. Please offer any suggestions or specifics for how to go about this. Much appreciated.

Hi,

Family Search no longer rents films because they are in the process of digitizing all their holdings. However, the films for the area of interest to you have been digitized and can be viewed online with restrictions. The restriction is that you must view the images at an LDS Family History Center or an affiliate library.

Here is a link: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=67334&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Poland%2C%20Krak%C3%B3w%2C%20Szczucin%20(D%C4%85browa%20Tarnowska)%22%20%2Bavailability%3AOnline&subjectsOpen=616400-50
and here is the restriction notice: Images Available

To view these images you must do one of the following:

Access the site at a family history center.
Access the site at a FamilySearch affiliate library.

Wishing you success,

Dave

microfilm

alfspt — Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:12 am

Author: alfspt

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:12 am

Oh my. How can you order microfilm from the ledgers in Szczucin. I am looking for records from the Delestowice parish for the names Starodaj, Matuszczak and Grzywacz.Had the opportunity to stop at the church in Delestowice in 8/16 however the priest was quite obstructionist even though I had a translator. Would not allow me to look at records. Also stopped at the church in Szczucin and the older priest allowed us after much pleading 1 hr to look through the ledgers. I would like to get the microfilms so I can dig deeper and have some time. Please offer any suggestions or specifics for how to go about this. Much appreciated.

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:15 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:15 am

Brandy,

Have you checked also marriage records? We know from all the documents that Leka, Szczucin, Dabrowa county, Austria, was the place of last residence of Mary Makuch. We don't know if she was born there, but that she lived there. It is also possible that she got married and moved to Leka to her husband from other parish..?

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:32 am

Author: violin75

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:32 am

Zenon:

Good Afternoon Zenon! Yes, I have checked all the microfilms except 2. These two are in the years of 1748-1784 and 1800-1845. My birth record I need is 1897. It is possible her father Stanislaw could be in the 1845 births but I doubt it. I could order it?

I have ordered from Szczucin Parafja:
1786-1866 Szczucin #1898356
1867-1903 Szczucin #1898357
1856-1935 (Delatowice,Laskowka,Odmet, Wojcina) #1982993
1859-1995 (same towns as above) #1983004

I have also ordered microfilms from other parishes too.

Have a wonderful day!
Brandy

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:41 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:41 am

Brandy,

Have you had chance to check all possible records from Szczucin parish (Dabrowa Tarnowska county) where Łęka Szczucińska belonged

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:32 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:32 pm

Good afternoon:
Well, I wanted to give an update about the microfilm that came in on the 9th. I ordered the microfilm 1921022. It is of parafja D?browa Tarnowska includes towns D?browa,Ogbrowa and a few others.
There were no Makuch, not one!!!!

So, I ordered two more hoping to get lucky!
Here are the two I ordered: Births for Borki, D?browa Tarnowska#1958427
births,marriages,deaths for parafja D?browa Tarnowska, Krakow; #1900557
In the past I have also ordered Wo?a Szczucinska #1958428 and others.
*The question if I may ask is: am I ordering microfilms of the towns that are around Szczucin (??ka Szczucinska)????? I have looked at maps but from your expertise do you think I am looking in the right direction????
Many Thanks and Blessings,
Brandy

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:39 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:39 pm

Hello Zenon:
Thank you for replying to my message.
I am going to view the microfilm right now,it came in!!!! I will let you know what happens tonight when I return. I hope I find something. Your message has given me hope.

I have not found any of my family with the last name Makuch in the records but I have found a couple of people with that last name in the town.
I did find my Pietruszka people in Szczucin!!!! I found them while looking for Makuch, it was so amazing!
So, I am still looking for my ggreat grandmother. I will look closely at all the maps and things you posted tonight.
Thanks once again,
Brandy

Was there census records in Poland like in America? If so, do you know how I can access them? I was thinking this might help me find them!

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:20 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:20 am

Hi Brandy,

violin75 wrote:

I am now wondering if the family was Jewish because the Arrival record is so distinct listing the city, town and county and there are others with the surname but they are not there, so I wonder if it is because they were Jewish? I am not sure, it is a guess because of the large Jewish population in the area!

The surnames, Makuch, Piotrowski, Pietruszka (literally in Polish "parsley") and Głód (literally in Polish "hunger"), sound Polish, not Jewish. Aside from that, if you found any records in Roman Catholic records they had to be Catholics.

"violin75 wrote:

Currently, I have looked for more records to Leka Szczucinska but I have already ordered them, so I have started to order records from other towns that are similar to Leka or Leki

I think that you are looking in correct "Łęka Szczucińska". First, you were finding the same surnames already in these parish books. Second, look at the maps of "your" surnames distribution Dąbrowa Tarnowska county, especially for Makuch: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/makuch.html and Głód:
Głód: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/g%25C5%2582%25C3%25B3d.html .

violin75 wrote:

These records wont be in for a few weeks, I wish I could just go to the church and ask...Can I please view the records!

Well, this is probably the best option A few weeks ago I had chance to visit Szczucin with my guest Aleksandra. We met a nice young priest who was open and not only allowed us to look through Szczucin parish records but also was actively helping us in the search.
We were looking there for a very specific record in hope to find "correct" parish where Aleksandra's ancestor was born. Our trip with Aleksandra and her husband is described in Forefathers Traces Tours Blog: http://blog.polishorigins.com/ . Part 1: Arrival in the old Galicia, my grandparents homeland. , part 2: The long journey and unsolved mystery. .

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:56 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:56 pm

Good Afternoon:

Well, I have done research on the films and they have many smaller towns like Odmet and many others(off the top of my head- I can get the other towns later for you) but very little on Leka, mostly in the earlier records. I also found out that it was an area that had a big Jewish community and it was affected by the war a great deal.

In the records, I did find my ggrandfather Jozef Pietruska (his mother maiden name, his father was Jan Piotrowski- he was born illegitimate according to the church records) After he came to America, he took his fathers surname. His mother is apart of the Jurkowski and Pietruska family in Szczucin. This was a great find that I was not expecting.

I saw in the records some Makuch and Glud families but they are not apart of mine that I know of right now! Stanislaw Makuch was Helena Makuch's father and her mother was Katarzyna Glud(spelled Glo'd in the records)<I cant access my Polish keyboard at this time, so please excuse the letters!
In the records it has a father Glod and a mother Makuch but nothing is matching up.
There a couple of other families with the names but I am stuck!

I am now wondering if the family was Jewish because the Arrival record is so distinct listing the city, town and county and there are others with the surname but they are not there, so I wonder if it is because they were Jewish? I am not sure, it is a guess because of the large Jewish population in the area!

I am open to anything and I would really love to find my ggrandmother and her family; I feel so drawn to find her.

Currently, I have looked for more records to Leka Szczucinska but I have already ordered them, so I have started to order records from other towns that are similar to Leka or Leki. These records wont be in for a few weeks, I wish I could just go to the church and ask...Can I please view the records!

Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Shellie — Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:48 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:48 pm

Hi Brandy,
I was wondering if you have learned much about your grandmother's viilage Łęka Szczucińska. I saw that Zenon told you it was part of the parish Szczucin and Dąbrowa Tarnowska is the biggest town.
What have you found in the church records? -Shellie

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:45 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:45 am

It says "Leka". When we take into account the other sources this is most probably about Łęka Szczucinska.

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Shellie — Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:33 am

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:33 am

I believe this is the manifest that Brandy had trouble uploading. It shows the arrivial of sisters Mary and Helena Makuch aboard the ship Lucania on 20 OCT 1906.

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:12 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:12 am

Good morning ,

The scans confirm that we are in correct localization in area of Szczucin, Dąbrowa Tarnowska.

I have no idea what is Levia. This is not Polish sounding word...

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:39 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:39 pm

Zenon:
It wouldnt let me scan anymore documents.It basically showed Helena first time coming to America when she was 9. It shows what I believe as the place of Birth, LEVIA
????
Take care and have a good night. I deeply appreciate your help; look forward to seeing what you think about the place of birth.
Brandy

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:12 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:12 pm

Zenon:
The first page to the previous scanned page, 1926 Passenger record. She (Helen Piotrowski) is on the last line.

Many Thanks,
Brandy

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:07 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:07 pm

Zenon:
heres the 2nd one. She went back to Poland to visit her mother 1926. You can see her name and where on the next 2 documents. She's on the last line.

Brandy

My scans-1

violin75 — Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:02 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:02 pm

Zenon:
Here are the scans I told you about. There are a total of four. First one Petition for Naturalization -notice it says Leka, Poland towards the top. I had to reduce the rest of the document because it was too big, so I am submitting the part that shows her village...all new for me!

3 more...
Thanks a lot,
Brandy

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:52 pm

Author: Zenon

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:52 pm

Brandy,

The first link provided by Shellie from Szczucin parish should include your Łęka Szczucińska records:

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=616400&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Krak%C3%B3w%2C+Szczucin+%28D%C4%85browa+Tarnowska%29+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

violin75 — Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:20 pm

Author: violin75

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:20 pm

Zenon:

I want to order the microfilms from LDS library and I found one that might be it but I need to make sure it is the correct location for the town in it. Could you tell me what you think,please. Shellie also found one for me too, could they both be useful ???

Poland, Krakow, D?browa Tarnowska(D?browa Tarnowska)-Church records
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=authordetails&authorno=380192&name=Ko?ci???+rzymsko%2Dkatolicki%2E+Parafja+D?browa+Tarnowska+%28D?browa+Tarnowska%29%2C+null&columns=*,0,0

OR

Poland, Krak??w, Wola Szczuci?ska (D?browa Tarnowska) - Church records Ksi?gi metrykalne, 1786-1988 Ko?ci??? rzymsko-katolicki. Parafja Wola Szczuci?ska (D?browa Tarnowska)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=769500&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Krak%C3%B3w%2C+Wola+Szczuci%C5%84ska+%28D%C4%85browa+Tarnowska%29+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0

Thanks again,
Brandy
Scanning the documents in next.

Re: Anyone know where Lenka Szczuczyn is??

Zenon — Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:22 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:22 am

violin75 wrote:

I will definitely upload the documents you asked for just give me a day or so. Do I upload them back here?

Yes, you can upload it (or them) here, in this thread. Click here: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=373#373 to read short instruction about attaching files to posts in our Forum.

violin75 wrote:

Question: You wrote that the place is Leka Szczucinska, Szczecin and Dabrowa Tarnowska
How would I write this down as her place of birth? What comes first?
Leka Szczucinska: is this the village?
What is Szczecin, the city ?
Dabrowa Tarnowska is this like an American County?

This is correct, Łęka Szczucińska is the village (now it seems to be part of the town of Szczucin), Szczucin (not Szczecin, which is another town in nort-west corner of Poland) was the parish seat for the Łęka Szczucińska, and Dąbrowa Tarnowska is the biggest town, county for this area. BTW, I had chance to visit Dąbrowa Tarnowska a few times, once with my guests from Florida. Click here: http://polishorigins.com/document/genealogy_tours and among many other albums of Polish places you will find at the bottom of the page link to Dąbrowa Tarnowska photographs.

violin75 wrote:

This is in Malopolskie, right? Was it the same when she was born?

Yes, this is in Malopolskie (Krakow) province, just on the border with Swietokrzyskie (Kielce) province. In 19th this area belonged to Austria (Galicia territory) and bordered with Russia. The natural border was on Wisla river. I found an interesting website about Szczucin history: http://www.kurier.zicom.pl/index.php?action=gaulle in Polish, and here: http://bit.ly/chHSUq translated by google translate tool into English. What may be the most interesting for you there is mentioned late Teresa Kańska nee Makuch, a Polish literature professor born in Szczucin

violin75 wrote:

Also, please excuse the misspelling of some of the letters , I don't have Polish letters yet.

No problem at all. You can have them all by copying them immediately from our Polish Genealogy Databases tool here: http://polishorigins.com/databases/ .

violin75 wrote:

Im so excited now that you seem to have figured it out for me. I cant wait to search through the documents and piece together what was lost for years.
I am eternally thankful to you.

If only we can help you more just try to ask here