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Re: help translating village name in death record

vbstar2010 — Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:12 pm

Author: vbstar2010

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:12 pm

I think then this place may be ruled out.

Perhaps you might try the JewishGen Gazetteer here -

http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/loctown.asp?town=CHOCHOCIN&ctry=%27PL%27&stype=BM&units=MILES&latd=&latm=&lond=&lonm=

Parameters -- CHOCHOCIN > Poland > sounds like

A portion of the results:

Searching for location CHOCHOCIN in Poland
(D-M code '555600','455600','545600','445600','554600','454600','544600','444600')
Run on Tuesday 1 November 2016 at 15:04:57
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Location
(Native names in BOLD) Feature Type Coordinates
(Click for JewishGen Resource Map) Map Country Distance/Direction
from reference point 10 mile radius
Ciechocin populated place
50°42' N 22°19' E
G
Poland
121.0 miles SSE of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Ciechocin populated place
53°03' N 18°56' E
G
Poland
103.2 miles WNW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Ciechocin populated place
53°37' N 17°42' E
G
Poland
166.6 miles NW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

More Info Sochocin populated place
52°41' N 20°28' E
G
Poland
37.4 miles NW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Chorzęcin populated place
51°31' N 19°53' E
G
Poland
69.5 miles SW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Ciachcin populated place
52°37' N 19°48' E
G
Poland
56.6 miles WNW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Ciechocino populated place
54°37' N 18°21' E
G
Poland
196.0 miles NNW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Sąchocin populated place
52°22' N 21°46' E
G
Poland
33.4 miles ENE of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Praga, Sochocino, Sochocino-Praga populated place
52°35' N 19°59' E
G
Poland
48.6 miles WNW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Suchocin populated place
51°53' N 22°30' E
G
Poland
68.5 miles ESE of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Suchocin populated place
52°25' N 20°47' E
G
Poland
14.7 miles NW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E

Re: help translating village name in death record

mcdonald0517 — Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:46 pm

Author: mcdonald0517

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:46 pm

Hi Valerie,

Do you know if Sochocin was part of Prussia around 1825? The record clearly states the village is in Prussia, so if Sochocin was not part of Prussia, then it rules it out.

Thanks,
Cynthia

Re: help translating village name in death record

vbstar2010 — Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:28 pm

Author: vbstar2010

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:28 pm

mcdonald0517 wrote:

Hello all,

Marcelproust has generously translated the entire record already, but I could use more than one set of translating eyes to look at the village name in this death document for Andreas Krygier (Krueger). The village is underlined for convenience, but I am posting the entire record so you can get a feel for the scribe's handwriting.

Marcelproust translated the village as "Chochocin", however, there is no such village. This is why I am asking for additional translations / thoughts from the community.

I suspect this is another case of Polish witnesses verbally reporting a Prussian village name which is then written by a Russian scribe. The last time this happened with my great grandmother's birth village, it took multiple suggestions and translation attempts from the community and 3 years of research on my part before I finally found her birth village! It may take similar perseverance to find my great grandfather, Andreas!

I appreciate any help you can offer.
Best regards,
Cynthia

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I can't read Russian but here's a thought...how about Sochocin?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochocin

help translating village name in death record

mcdonald0517 — Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:32 pm

Author: mcdonald0517

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:32 pm

Hello all,

Marcelproust has generously translated the entire record already, but I could use more than one set of translating eyes to look at the village name in this death document for Andreas Krygier (Krueger). The village is underlined for convenience, but I am posting the entire record so you can get a feel for the scribe's handwriting.

Marcelproust translated the village as "Chochocin", however, there is no such village. This is why I am asking for additional translations / thoughts from the community.

I suspect this is another case of Polish witnesses verbally reporting a Prussian village name which is then written by a Russian scribe. The last time this happened with my great grandmother's birth village, it took multiple suggestions and translation attempts from the community and 3 years of research on my part before I finally found her birth village! It may take similar perseverance to find my great grandfather, Andreas!

I appreciate any help you can offer.
Best regards,
Cynthia