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Ancestors from Stare Bystre

charbudz — Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:36 pm

Author: charbudz

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:36 pm

Hi! My grandparents on my mom's side are from Stare Bystre. Here is some information on them:

Jan Obrochta (Dec. 10, 1915 - Sept. 12, 2001) married Maria Obrochta (prev. Maria Boblak) (June 3, 1922 - Feb. 22, 2002)

They had five children, one of which is my mother, Maria Obrochta (born July 8th, 1964). She came to America from Stare Bystre in 1972 when she was 7 years old.

She later married Józef Budz, my father. He is from Bór. If you are interested, I can provide information about him and his parents as well.

Re: relatives and Stare Bystre

peicraig — Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:05 pm

Author: peicraig

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:05 pm

Hi,

I have my maternal grandmother's work visa and it lists Stare Bystre as a town associated with her. It's written mostly in German, so I don't know if that's where she was from originally or not. Her name was Antonina Skrzypek. She married after immigrating to a man who was a fiddler in a wedding band. His name was Roman Obrochta (but on the ship manifest it is spelled as Roman Obrochla), and it lists his ethnicity as Austria/Ruthenian. It also lists his mother is listed as being Marianna Obrochla and her residence is listed as Naprawa, Austria. I've always thought it must have been some kind of joke between my grandparents that he married a woman whose surname means violin. And to make it even funnier, they named their second child Viola. Before I knew the meaning of Antonina's last name, I always assumed that my aunt's personal name was a reference to the flower. Now I think it had a different meaning to them.

Additional info on Antonina Skrzypek:
Passenger on S.S. Kaiser Wilhelm II from Bremen, Germany on March 4, 1913
Last permanent residence: Stryszawa, Galicia, Austria
Race or people listed as: Polish
Occupation listed as: servant
Age: 24
Marital status: single
brother: Jozef Skrzypek
cousin: Anna Bojes (Saratoga Springs, NY)

If you run across any connections to any of the people named here, I'd be very grateful if you'd pass it along.

Patricia Kardash Craig

Re: Stare Bystre near Czarny Dunajec in Nowy Targ

Ute — Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:52 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:52 am

Shellie wrote:

Some surnames associated with this village, gathered from Ellis Island website and other sites around the internet. No attempt has been made to correct any spelling errors:

Antolak, Biela, Bielak, Bielanski, Billa, Bobak, Bukowska, Bukowski, Cisek, Gadovska, Godawa, Guziak, Harbut, Herzig, Kaczmarczyk, Karczmarczyk, Kesek, Kiela, Kieta, Kolodziej, Komperda, Kula, Kulak, Kwak, Ligas, Lisek, Liska, Lowisz, Lukanus, Lukossus, Lusczek, Malek, Mientus, Migtus, Molek, Molek, Morona, Mroszczak, Muntus, Naglak, Obrachla, Obrochta, Ogredna, Parzatko, Parzontka, Piszczow, Prokop, Seligz, Sroka, Stoch, Stopka, Szczypka, Szczypka, Szyszkiewicz, Takuska, Takuski, Tatar, Tyeka, Waclawik, Woyda, Zeglin, Zubek
Please let me know if you would like to add a name to this list.

I'm adding a list of of emigrants from the village Stare Bystre gathered from Ellis Island website. As usual, there are a number of spelling errors that I have not corrected:
Name-Age-Born-Arrived
Antolak, Aniela-30-1893-1923
Bedek, Franaja-18-1888-1906
Bi...lak, Johan-23-1878-1901
Biela, Franciszek-46-1863-1909
Biela, Marya-24- 1882-1906
Bielak, Ludwika- 17-1893-1910
Bielak, Rozalie-15-1891-1906
Bielanski, Yohann-20-1878- 1898
Billa, Johann-30 1869 1899
Bobak, Martin-22 1877 1899
Bukowska, Agnieszka-23 1890 1913
Cisek, Jakob-25 1882 1907
Gadovska, Aniela-24 1888 1912
Herzig, Konegunda-25 1880 1905
Kaczmarczyk, Maryanna-17 1894 1911
Karczmarcz;yk, Jan-4 1918 1922
Karczmarczyk, Josef-0 1922 1922
Karczmarczyk, Maciej 36 1886 1922
Karczmarczyk, Marya 34 1888 1922
Kesek, Wikta-24 1882 1906
Kiela, Marya-17 1896 1913
Kiela, Stanislaw- 40 1860 1900
Kieta, Rosalia-22 1889 1911
Kolodziej, Joseph-30 1870 1900
Komperda, Anna-12 1892 1904
Komperda, Bronislawa- 4 1900 1904
Komperda, Jan-38 1863 1901
Komperda, Maciej-29 1872 1901
Komperda, Reszka-35 1869 1904
Kulak, Jozef-18 1883 1901
Kwak, Jedrzej-23 1878 1901
Ligas, Anna-20 1890 1910
Lisek, Aniela-19 1891 1910
Liska, Alexandra -23 1888 1911
Lowisz, Johann-30 1870 1900
Lukanus, Jan-34 1876 1910
Lukossus, Rozalia-22 1888 1910
Lusczek, Tomas-37 1874 1911
Malek, Jan- 25 1876 1901
Mientus, Igantz-18 1894 1912
Mietus, Amelia-23 1888 1911
Mietus, Franz-1 1910 1911
Migtus, Anna-19 1902 1921
Molek, Jozef-18 1886 1904
Molek, Karol-35 1875 1910
Morona, Rozalia-16 1891 1907
Naglak, Jan-20 1879 1899
Nalepa, Vigta Keta-32 1865 1897
Obrachla, Josef-44 1869 1913
Obrochta, Jan-35 1873 1908
Obrochta, Zedzzej-18 1890 1908
Ogredna, Aniela-17 1895 1912
Parzatko, Wojciech-28 1885 1913
Parzontka, Marya-18 1892 1910
Piszczow, Antonina-31 1891 1922
Piszczow, Jan-27 1895 1922
Piszczow, Josef-2 1920 1922
Piszczow, Wladyslaw-6 1916 1922
Prokop, Jan-30 1883 1913
Seligz, Macicj-24 1877 1901
Sroka, Jozef-29 1871 1900
Stoch, Peter-27 1872 1899
Stopka, Jan-25 1874 1899
Szczypka, Jan-15 1906 1921
Szczypka, Karolina-37 1884 1921
Szyszkiewicz, Marya-30 1882 1912
Takuska, Anna-17 1895 1912
Takuski, Thomas-30 1870 1900
Tatar, Marya-30 1874 1904
Tyeka, Jacenty-38 1872 1910
Waclawik, Stanislaw-36 1867 1903
Woyda, Johann-30 1871 1901
Zeglin, Rosalie-17 1893 1910
Zubek, Aniela-42 1872 1914
Zubek, Jan -20 1890 1910

Re: Stare Bystre near Czarny Dunajec in Nowy Targ

stankieta — Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:19 pm

Author: stankieta

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:19 pm

I have ancestors (and I think living relatives) from Stare Bystre although my family has lost contact with them over the years.

My Grandfather, Ignacy Kieta was born in Stare Bystre in 1894. As far as I know, he had 1 older sister Maria and 1 older brother Francizek (born in 1892). His father Joseph Kieta would have been born around 1860 and he died shortly after Ignacy was born. Ignacy's mother, Anna (born in 1863) remarried to a Jan Stopko (or Stopka) and they had 1 child Andrew born in Stare Bystre in 1898. Jan came to the US in 1899 to work as a coalminer in western Pennsylvania. Anna came with Andrew in 1901. At the time my grandfather was only 7 years old. Personally, I couldn't imagine leaving my young children behind as my great grandmother did but I also don't know what the circumstances were that prompted her to leave them.

I know that my granfather only finished third grade of elementary school but he could read and write in both Polish and English. I have a Master's degree in Engineering but I don't know a word of Polish.

My grandfather and his siblings stayed in Stare Bystre for several years after their mother left but I don't know who took care of them during that time. I know that they had a number of relatives in Stare Bystre at the time and I assume they lived with some of those relatives. I know that my grandfather either lived on a farm or worked on a farm while they were in Stare Bystre. My grandfather told stories about taking care of the animals.

My grandfather also worked as a carpenter. He brought that skill with him when he came to the US. I have many memories of him making furniture in the attic of his house using only a few hand tools. I also do carpentry but my skill doesn't come close to his. Especially with the limited tools that he had.

Francizek came to the US in 1906 with a man named Wojciech Komparda and he lived with his mother and stepfather. He saved money for the next 5 years and was finally able to pay for my grandfather to come to the US in 1911. Grandfather was 17 at the time and hadn't seen his mother in 10 years. The ship records say that he spent the 2 week boat trip in steerage class which doesn't sound like it would be a comfortable trip.

Grandfather worked as a coalminer until he retired. My Grandfather died in 1969. I never asked him about his life in Stare Bystre but I wish I had. One thing that I do remember is that he liked the mountains around Johnstown, PA because they reminded him of the mountains in Stare Bystre.

I've been researching my family history for the past year or so. I've learned a lot about my grandparents lives after they came to the US but I know very little about their lives or families in Poland. I would really like to connect with other "lost" members of my family or with people who may have known my family.

Re: Stare Bystre near Czarny Dunajec in Nowy Targ

Shellie — Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:39 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:39 pm

Some surnames associated with this village, gathered from Ellis Island website and other sites around the internet. No attempt has been made to correct any spelling errors:

Antolak, Biela, Bielak, Bielanski, Billa, Bobak, Bukowska, Bukowski, Cisek, Gadovska, Godawa, Guziak, Harbut, Herzig, Kaczmarczyk, Karczmarczyk, Kesek, Kiela, Kieta, Kolodziej, Komperda, Kula, Kulak, Kwak, Ligas, Lisek, Liska, Lowisz, Lukanus, Lukossus, Lusczek, Malek, Mientus, Migtus, Molek, Molek, Morona, Mroszczak, Muntus, Naglak, Obrachla, Obrochta, Ogredna, Parzatko, Parzontka, Piszczow, Prokop, Seligz, Sroka, Stoch, Stopka, Szczypka, Szczypka, Szyszkiewicz, Takuska, Takuski, Tatar, Tyeka, Waclawik, Woyda, Zeglin, Zubek

Please let me know if you would like to add a name to this list.

Re: Stare Bystre near Czarny Dunajec in Nowy Targ

Shellie — Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:34 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:34 pm

The church of St. Stanislaw in Stare Bystre is a relatively new church, built in the 1980s.

Read more here: http://www.czarnydunajec.parafia.info.pl/?p=main&what=18

Stare Bystre near Czarny Dunajec in Nowy Targ

Shellie — Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:27 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:27 pm

Stare Bystre

If you have ancestors from this village, please post a message on this thread.

From Wikipedia:
Stare Bystre [ˈstarɛ ˈbɨstrɛ] is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Czarny Dunajec, within Nowy Targ County, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, in southern Poland, close to the border with Slovakia. It lies approximately 9 kilometres (6 mi) south-west of Nowy Targ and 70 km (43 mi) south of the regional capital Kraków.

It is located in the geographical region Nowotarska Basin and Foothills Gubałowskie and historical-ethnographic Podhale . It is divided into the Stare Bystre Górne (upper) and Stare Bystre Dolne (lower) extends over the valley to a height of 630 m above sea borders with Rogoźnik, Maruszyna, Czerwienne, Ciche, Czarny Dunajec and Wróblówką

History translated with Google Translator:
The foundation charter of 1591 had not yet been extracted from Rogoźnik that stretched to the Peaceful. Well-known anglers stream Rogoźnik Great and stream flowing through the village cutest created a charming valley. Here limestone Skalka uplifted tens of meters above the riverbed ends Tatra Skalicowy belt. However, the name of the village comes from the stream cutest . Stare Bystre was once famous for carpenters group called siejkami budarskimi . Today, the inhabitants breed dairy cattle and sheep, with bundz (cheese-making process) make their cheese called pucokami .

Stare Bystre belongs to the parish of Czarny Dunajec. Church of St. Stanislaus erected at the beginning of the 1980s has beautiful wooden interior. Stare Bystre also has many folk artists such as Stanislaw Podczerwiński (luthier), Francis Obrochta (musician) and women who hand-sew costumes.