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Town Name in Poland

Monica — Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:25 am

Author: Monica

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:25 am

Thanks for your help with my post. I appreciate you taking the time. Thanks Monica

Re: Town Name in Poland

Anonymous — Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:02 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:02 pm

Monica wrote:

Hi,
I am at a dead end in regard to a marriage record for Laurentius Ewelt (Hewelt) who was born in Zarnowiec, Pomorskie, Poland. I have ordered the film through the LDS and have looked through all of what they have. This town did not appear very often in all the records. I have downloaded the marriage record and have tried everything I know to figure out where the town is that is listed. I am interested in the 2nd town name of the downloaded page. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
Monica Biernat

Monica,
It is written in latin Taberna Wotiviensis or Woliviensis. I could locate two villages mentioned in that page: Strzebielino and Goscicino, using mapa.szukacz.pl
According to Google translatort Taberna is Tawerna in polish, but I coud not find any in the area. Maybe it is a place that no longer exists or had its name changed. I would have to check SGKP.
My best shot is Wolowe Uroczysko (see image attached), very close to Wielki Las, one of the places mentioned in that page.

Gilberto

Re: Town Name in Poland

dnowicki — Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:43 pm

Author: dnowicki

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:43 pm

Monica wrote:

Hi Monica,

The place was probably not a village. It would appear that it was either simply an inn/tavern or a small settlement which grew up around the inn/tavern. This would explain why the place name is not often found in the parish records.

The name as it appears in the record is Taberna Wołoviensis (or Wotoviensis). The first word, taberna, is Latin for an inn or a tavern. The second word is a place name which has been transformed into a Third Declension adjective modifying taberna. To determine the vernacular name the Latin ending “iensis” is dropped and then one would have to recover the vernacular place name. The place could be something like Wołowo or Wotowo. Without being familiar with area place names at the time the record was composed it is difficult to be certain of the name of the inn/tavern.

An example of retrieving a vernacular place name from a Third Declension Latin adjectival form would be the Latin version for a term like “The Archdiocese of Chicago”. Chicago in the Latin version is Chicagiensis. Drop the “iensis” and you are left with Chicag. A bit of geographical knowledge allows one to retrieve the place name as Chicago.

Sorry that I can’t be of more help but I doubt that one would find the place on any contemporary maps or any historical maps of the region.

Wishing you success in your research,

Dave

Town Name in Poland

Monica — Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:14 pm

Author: Monica

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:14 pm

Hi,
I am at a dead end in regard to a marriage record for Laurentius Ewelt (Hewelt) who was born in Zarnowiec, Pomorskie, Poland. I have ordered the film through the LDS and have looked through all of what they have. This town did not appear very often in all the records. I have downloaded the marriage record and have tried everything I know to figure out where the town is that is listed. I am interested in the 2nd town name of the downloaded page. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
Monica Biernat

Town Name - Taberna Wotiviensis/Woliviensis

Monica — Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Author: Monica

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Hi,
I am at a dead end in regard to a marriage record for Laurentius Ewelt (Hewelt) who was born in Zarnowiec, Pomorskie, Poland. I have ordered the film through the LDS and have looked through all of what they have. This town did not appear very often in all the records. I have downloaded the marriage record and have tried everything I know to figure out where the town is that is listed. I am interested in the 2nd town name of the downloaded page. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
Monica Biernat