https://forum.polishorigins.com/index.php Ask & share everything you would like to learn and tell about your origins in Poland en-EN (c) Copyright 2026 by PolishOrigins(TM) Forum forum@polishorigins.com (PolishOrigins Forum) forum@polishorigins.com (PolishOrigins Webmaster) Wed, 15 Jul 2026 11:29:51 +0200 Wed, 15 Jul 2026 11:29:51 +0200 http://backend.userland.com/rss phpBB2 RSS Syndication Mod by Lucas 1 http://forum.polishorigins.com/templates/sephia/images/rss2.png https://forum.polishorigins.com/index.php Ask & share everything you would like to learn and tell about your origins in Poland https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=47831#47831 <br /> Author: <a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1846'>dnowicki</a><br /><br /> Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:48 pm<br /><br /> <br /><br /> </span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>a4u2fear wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I am interested in the following marriage:<br /> <br /> Catholic parish Ostrowo k. Pakości [Ostrowo b.Amsee]<br /> entry 1 / 1808<br /> Thomas Podrybiński? (38 years old, widower)<br /> Susanna Marnecka alias Gawronska (20 years old)<br /> <br /> The scan is attached.<br /> <br /> What I'm wondering is the Gawronska crossed out and Marnecka written in.<br /> <br /> What could cause this? I don't believe she was a widow so I don't think it was her maiden name. Which is likely her name? Marnecka?<br /> <br /> Any ideas?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"><br /> <br /> Hi,<br /> <br /> Gawronska was definitely crossed out and Marnecka entered in different handwriting. Even during the second half of the 18th Century not all Polish peasants used surnames and even during the early 19th Century surnames on non-nobles remained somewhat fluid. We tend to look at surnames as something immutable but that was not necessarily the way it was among Poles in the early 19th Century. Plenty of individuals were recorded with an alias during the first quarter of the 19th Century. She was definitely not a widow as the entry states that she was a maiden [virgine, the Ablative Singular of virgo, virginis, f. maiden/virgin (although not necessarily a virgin in the technical physical sense. It simply meant a woman who had never been married.)]. From this record alone it is not possible to tell why the alias was entered and by whom. It is also not possible to say which name is more correct. A possible strategy would be to search for her birth record under both surnames and see what shakes out. Sometimes one gets lucky and the pieces fall into place.<br /> <br /> Wishing you happy hunting,<br /> <br /> Dave https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=47831#47831 dnowicki Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:48 pm https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=47831#47831 https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=47830#47830 <br /> Author: <a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9179'>a4u2fear</a><br /><br /> Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:33 pm<br /><br /> <br /><br /> I am interested in the following marriage:<br /> <br /> Catholic parish Ostrowo k. Pakości [Ostrowo b.Amsee]<br /> entry 1 / 1808<br /> Thomas Podrybiński? (38 years old, widower)<br /> Susanna Marnecka alias Gawronska (20 years old)<br /> <br /> The scan is attached.<br /> <br /> What I'm wondering is the Gawronska crossed out and Marnecka written in.<br /> <br /> What could cause this? I don't believe she was a widow so I don't think it was her maiden name. Which is likely her name? Marnecka?<br /> <br /> Any ideas? https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=47830#47830 a4u2fear Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:33 pm https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=47830#47830