Re: Wagner?

nekocat — Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:31 am

Author: nekocat

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:31 am

my first cousin received all the extant family papers after our grandmother's death. that is where I got the letters and death form from. his marriage record came from NEHGS. his work and medical records were from NARA. I found the notice about the law suit in a Boston Globe paper when the newspaper file was free to view...G something, it's late and my tired brain isn't thinking clearly. residence came from perusing the Boston and Chelsea city directories, in this instance on microfische at the L. A. public library. and some of it is just hear-say. something our grandmother wrote down in her 90's. let me know if I missed anything.

Re: Wagner?

Shellie — Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:49 am

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:49 am

Hi Nekocat,
You have a lot of information about Charles Wagner's life. Did your family pass down his letters over the years? You also mention several records, such as the unfinished death record. I'm curious about how you learned of these details. Can you share how you got it? - understanding how you obtained the records may help some other members who are searching for their mariner ancestors.

Thanks!

Wagner?

nekocat — Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:21 pm

Author: nekocat

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:21 pm

that's the surname we know them by, but it is said they may have changed it.
Anton and Thekla had a son Charles Jacob/Joseph Wagner b. 1855-1857 in Poland. that's what we have for their time in Poland.
Charles came to America before 1884 and settled in Boston, MA, became a mariner and is said to have died in the Marine hospital in Chelsea, MA on Aug 3 1894, but there's no death record and we cannot find a burial for him.

this is all we have on them;
abt 1855-1857 born in either Poland or Russia, father Anton, mother Thekla
said to have been raised in England-nothing found in English census records
bef 1883 arrived in America-states he is a US Citizen in 1883
Jun 1883 arrived in New York from Liverpool, England on the ship Ethiopia
Oct 4 1883 married in Boston, MA to Annie McDonald father Alan, mother Sarah
Aug 1884 on the ship Katherine J. Ireland-filed a claim against Master and first mate for abuse.
1885 resided 46 Fayette, Boston, MA
1886 resided 46 Fayette, Boston, MA
May 3 1886 son Allan b. in Boston, MA (only child by Annie)
1887 possibly living at 6 Grenville place-Mrs. Annie Wagner (may be someone else)
1888/1889 resided 434 Chelsea in East Boston
1888/1889 possibly living at 6 Grenville place-Mrs. Annie Wagner (may be someone else)
1889 sailed on Stephen G. Loud, H. C. Sibley, bark Sarah-Mate (otherwise just a sailor)
Apr 17, 1889 wrote from Fallriver, MA
May 12, 1889 wrote from Brunswick, NS
Jun 4 & 5, 1889 wrote from Boston, MA
Jun 7 & 8, 1889 wrote from Bangor, ME
Jun 7 1889 payed 5.00 from H. C. Sibley
Jul 15, 1889 wrote from Aspinwall
Oct 9 1889 payed at rank of Mate from bark Sarah
1890 residing 267 Columbus Ave. Boston, MA
1890 sailed on Sachem, bark Sarah
Mar 4, 1890 wrote from St. Michaels
Mar/May (illegable) 6 1890 payed from bark Sarah
May 23 1890 payed from the Sachem
May 28, 1890 wrote from Fayal
Jun 13, 1890 wrote from St. Michaels
Aug 16, 1890 wrote from Boston, MA
Aug 19, 1890 wrote from Boston, MA
Sep 18, 1890 wrote from Fayal
Sep 28th 1890 wrote from St. Michaels
1891 residing 267 Columbus Ave and rear of Prince-same man? or two different men?
1892, 1893 and all years after not listed in Boston/Chelsea city directories
26 Apr 1892 arrived in Boston, MA from St. John NB on the steamer Cumberland
Jan 1894 sailed on the Mercedita
Feb 1st payed 2.00 from the Mercedita
Feb 3 1894 in Marine Hospital, Chelsea, MA for aneurism of arch aorta-released improved in Mar 1894
3 Aug 1894 said to have died on this date, form for a death record started, never completed or returned to Massachusetts vital record office and there is no death record for him for 10 years on either side of 1894 in Suffolk Co., MA
by 1898 Annie had removed to Chicago, IL, then to Omaha, NE where she met and married Paul Gillette. cannot find marriage record.

anyone have any ideas? his seaman protection papers are gone, he never shows up on an American census as far as I can find, and he left little in the way of a paper trail.

I've dna tested at 23andme in part to discover my Germanic ancestry, and have several Jewish cousins, but do not know if Charles was Jewish or had Jewish ancestry.

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