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                                        <title>Re: Relatives? - Chmielewski, Miloszewski; Zabokliki</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=145'&gt;BobK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:46 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Plock was not only a city, but it was a 'county' (I don't know which Polish word applies).    For instance,  some of my ancestors said Lipno, some said Klokock (small town near Lipno), and some said &amp;quot;Lipno, Plock&amp;quot;  on their immigration records.&lt;br /&gt;
I finaly got the church records which (so far) only lists Barany Village, which is in the same area as Klokock.    So don't rely on Plock as the city, it could be the county.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also,  don't think that her name meant she came from the town of the same name.   Those relatives of mine have the same name as a town that was in West Prussia.  (I'm still searching to see if earlier ancestors came from there)&lt;br /&gt;
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Have you found the better Ellis Island search tool?  Try the one at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellisgold.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellisgold.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I was able to find anyone listing a specific city they were from  using that better search than Ellis Island itself has.   Also everyone with parts of names.&lt;br /&gt;
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And don't forget, GOOGLE can find many names that are not common.&lt;br /&gt;
(too many if they are common)&lt;br /&gt;
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Good luck &lt;br /&gt;
Bob K.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:46 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Relatives? - Chmielewski, Miloszewski; Zabokliki</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=144'&gt;1/2pint&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:41 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;carolt71 wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt; In the past, I've had one problem right after another with New Jersey vital records. &lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard this about NJ vital records before from several researchers! Sounds like they are just to lazy to search their records. &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_sad.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Sad&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Since your grandmother's children were born in the states, try getting their baptismal &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline&quot;&gt;records&lt;/span&gt;. Due to church laws, more information was usually recorded by priests than what was required for the civil record.&lt;br /&gt;
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The most important, informative part of a civil marriage &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline&quot;&gt;record&lt;/span&gt; is the application to marry. &lt;br /&gt;
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Have you looked for an obituary for your grandmother? This may give her town of birth  &amp;amp; burial arrangement information (funeral home) or if you know where she was living at time of death, check nearest funeral homes. The funeral home should have a copy of the death record. &lt;br /&gt;
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I would also try the town and/or county clerk for vatious records.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Note&lt;/span&gt;: Always request a copy of the complete original &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: underline&quot;&gt;record&lt;/span&gt;. Certificates are filled out by clerks &amp;amp; many times don't contain all the information.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope this helps &amp;amp; please keep me posted.&lt;br /&gt;
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Joyce&lt;br /&gt;
PS. Plock is 93.1 miles from Zabokliki (&amp;quot;as the crow flies&amp;quot; = air distance) &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:41 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Relatives? - Chmielewski, Miloszewski; Zabokliki</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=260'&gt;carolt71&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:07 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Thank you very much for your question.  All of my grandmother's children were born here in the United States.  So far, I only have my grandmother's marriage license.  She was also married in the United States.  So far, the only town listed is plock.  Each one of her siblings have a different town listed.  My mother's godfather was related so I decided to try a the town he had listed.  This is definitely a needle in a haystack, however, I don't want to give up.  I've also requested her marriage license from the state of New Jersey.  In the past, I've had one problem right after another with New Jersey vital records.  I really hope they find something this time without another excuse.  Last time they should it would take at least three months and I never got it.  This time I paid more for vital check and hope I get it.  Any other suggestions to find her true birthplace would be most welcome.  Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
Carol&lt;br /&gt;
PS I have her marriage license from the church in New Jersey.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:07 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Relatives? - Chmielewski, Miloszewski; Zabokliki</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=144'&gt;1/2pint&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:13 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;carolt71 wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;  I think my grandmother was from, born in Zabokliki. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Carol,&lt;br /&gt;
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You think???....... Do you have this town on any USA records for your grandmother or her family members?&lt;br /&gt;
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Joyce</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:13 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Relatives? - Chmielewski, Miloszewski; Zabokliki</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='https://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=260'&gt;carolt71&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:47 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt; I am researching any relatives of my great grandparents Matthew and Eleanor Chmielewski.  They had my grandmother Florentyna, Clement, Leon, Faustyn John, and girls which I don't know the names.  I think my grandmother was from, born in Zabokliki.  My great grandmother's maiden name was Miloszewski which I have had trouble locating.  My grandmother immigrated 1899 Ellis island.  Relatives out there?  Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
Carol Tamara&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>carolt71</author>
                                        <pubDate>Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:47 pm</pubDate>
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