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Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Tue May 26, 2009 6:39 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:39 am

Ciot wrote:

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family?? Some Ciotuszynski's were in Bydgoszcz; Inowroclaw; and Woluszewo. My greatgrandfather was born in Poland in 1852 coming to America in 1888 thru Hamburg, Germany and Harve, France. He was born as Stanislaus Ciotuszynski. He married Julianne Buza born 1862 and came to America with children Stanley age 9, Marianne age 2, Michaline age 8 and Victoria age 6 months from Woluszewo, Poland.

Thank you for any help; you sure was a big help before.

Best Regards,
Rita Ciot (Ciotuszynski)

Rita,

Together with James we came back from Włocławek and Toruń area last week. Among other things, we visited Włocławek Archives (you can read more and see a few pictures from James' Forefathers' Traces Tour on our blog here: http://blog.polishorigins.com/ ). In one of the days James generously agreed for me to look quickly through the books from Raciążek parish in search of your ancestors from Wołuszewo as well as visit Wołuszewo village and take a few pictures for you

There was a gap in the records from Raciążek parish for years 1849-1854 so most probably period when your great grandfather Stanisław Ciotuszyński was born. I was able to look through books for years 1875 - 1888 (to the year of emigration of your ancestors).

In the book from 1878 I found marriage certificate of your Great Grandparents Stanisław Ciotuszyński and Julianna Buze What is also important in the next years there were no records of any children of them in the books from Raciążek parish. It most probably means that after marriage in 1878 they moved to another village or town outside of the Raciążek parish before emigrating to the New World. I will write you more details from the marriage record in e-mail.

And here: http://travel.webshots.com/album/572347531PEQwWD you can watch pictures of today's Wołuszewo

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:46 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:46 am

Translation of the baptism record:

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No. 47
Słońsk

It happened in the town of Raciążek on April 19, 1849 at noon. Jan Buze, age 36, farmer from Słońsk, in presence of Szymon Buze, age 30, and Szymon Romanowski, age 42, both farmers from Wołuszewo, showed us a male child declaring that it was born in Słońsk in house no. 30 on day 16th current month and year at 2 P.M. declaring that it is begot by him and Rozalia nee Modrzejewska, age 32, his wife, both farmers, Catholics. To the child, on the baptism ceremony held today, was given name Felix and its godparents was mentioned Szymon Buchalski and Marianna Buchalska. The certificate was read for the father of the child and witnesses signed only by us. Father and witnesses are illiterate.
Father Jan K..... (?)

Side note: Correction of surname to actual (?) Jan.....
---end of translation

I am not sure for 100 per cent about the surname's last letter "e". I am sure that the first three letters are Buz. HOWEVER I have checked Buze surname deployment in Poland and.... there are 208 people bearing this name and the most (54) live in Aleksandrow Kujawski seat of the county where Słońsk and Raciążek belong to Look at the map here: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/buze.html .

There is also inconsistency in witness/godfather surname. His surname at the beginning, where he is mentioned as a witness, is changed into Buze, later, when he is mention as the godfather his surname is Buchalski.

Buse/Buza/Buchalski

Ciot — Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:12 pm

Author: Ciot

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:12 pm

Zenon....thank you for helping with this transaction......

Rita

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:45 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:45 am

Ciot wrote:

Would you be able to help with the spelling of Jana's name or even be able to translate the Baptism record for me from Polish to English?? It appears that the name changed from Buchalski to Buza/Buze in Poland around 1849.

Rita,

If you have the record in a picture file upload it here. I (or maybe someone else) will try to help you.

Re: Documents Ciotuszynski/Buza

Ciot — Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:50 pm

Author: Ciot

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:50 pm

Zenon.......I have records of my Great Grandmother Julianna Buza baptism in Woluszewo, Poland from Raciazek, Poland. I have records of baptisms from 1843-1862 including 5 siblings. Now there could be more birth/baptisms after 1862 to Szymon Buza (Buchalski) and Jana Ciechoniligo (sp???). Would you be able to help with the spelling of Jana's name or even be able to translate the Baptism record for me from Polish to English?? It appears that the name changed from Buchalski to Buza/Buze in Poland around 1849.

Still have not found records of Stanislaw Ciotuszynski. And hope to find marriage record to Julianna Buza.

Thank you Zenon and please inform me if you can help and what I must do to get the record transferred to you.

Best Regards to you and your family,
Rita Ciot (Ciotuszynski)

Ciot wrote:

Thank you Zenon....

Zenon wrote:

Ciot wrote:

Yes Zenon, is that possible??

Zenon wrote:

Ciot wrote:

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family??

Do you mean the documents from the Raciążek, Lipno or Kikół parishes we were talking about which are stored in State Archives in Wloclawek

I will be in Wloclawek with my guest in May, so if we have time and my guest agrees, I will try to find time to look at the books and look for the records. I will write you more in private message when I know more details.

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Re: Documents Ciotuszynski/Buza

Ciot — Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:15 pm

Author: Ciot

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:15 pm

Thank you Zenon....

Zenon wrote:

Ciot wrote:

Yes Zenon, is that possible??

Zenon wrote:

Ciot wrote:

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family??

Do you mean the documents from the Raciążek, Lipno or Kikół parishes we were talking about which are stored in State Archives in Wloclawek

Re: Documents Ciotuszynski/Buza

Zenon — Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Author: Zenon

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Ciot wrote:

Yes Zenon, is that possible??

Zenon wrote:

Ciot wrote:

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family??

Do you mean the documents from the Raciążek, Lipno or Kikół parishes we were talking about which are stored in State Archives in Wloclawek

Documents Ciotuszynski/Buza

Ciot — Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:16 am

Author: Ciot

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:16 am

Yes Zenon, is that possible??

Zenon wrote:

Ciot wrote:

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family??

Do you mean the documents from the Raciążek, Lipno or Kikół parishes we were talking about which are stored in State Archives in Wloclawek

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:08 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:08 am

Ciot wrote:

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family??

Do you mean the documents from the Raciążek, Lipno or Kikół parishes we were talking about which are stored in State Archives in Wloclawek

Documents Ciotuszynski/Buza

Ciot — Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:37 pm

Author: Ciot

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:37 pm

Zenon.....can you get documents on the Ciotuszynski family?? Some Ciotuszynski's were in Bydgoszcz; Inowroclaw; and Woluszewo. My greatgrandfather was born in Poland in 1852 coming to America in 1888 thru Hamburg, Germany and Harve, France. He was born as Stanislaus Ciotuszynski. He married Julianne Buza born 1862 and came to America with children Stanley age 9, Marianne age 2, Michaline age 8 and Victoria age 6 months from Woluszewo, Poland.

Thank you for any help; you sure was a big help before.

Best Regards,
Rita Ciot (Ciotuszynski)

ciotuszynski/buza

Ciot — Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:17 am

Author: Ciot

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:17 am

Zenon thank you for all your help love the maps....all is a great tool.

Best regards, Rita

Zenon wrote:

1/2pint wrote:

Also have these FHL films : (better than writing the archive Exclamation) Very Happy >

Definitely better The whole process will be much more predictable and, I am think, shorter .

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Ciot — Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:15 am

Author: Ciot

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:15 am

Thank you so very much for your kind help in posting the very info that I need for research......thank you, Rita

1/2pint wrote:

Also have these FHL films : (better than writing the archive ) >

Kikol Parish:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=251190&disp=Kopie+ksi%C4%99g+metrykalnych%20%20&columns=*,0,0

Lipno Parish:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=346848&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Bydgoszcz%2C+Lipno+%28Lipno%29+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0

Joyce

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:24 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:24 am

1/2pint wrote:

Also have these FHL films : (better than writing the archive Exclamation) Very Happy >

Definitely better The whole process will be much more predictable and, I think, shorter .

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

1/2pint — Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:20 am

Author: 1/2pint

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:20 am

Also have these FHL films : (better than writing the archive ) >

Kikol Parish:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=251190&disp=Kopie+ksi%C4%99g+metrykalnych%20%20&columns=*,0,0

Lipno Parish:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=topicdetails&subject=346848&subject_disp=Poland%2C+Bydgoszcz%2C+Lipno+%28Lipno%29+%2D+Church+records&columns=*,0,0

Joyce

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:28 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:28 am

Now all of the three pictures are perfect

Well, what do you think..? I would confirm that recorded place of last residence is Woluszewo, what may be as well Wołuszewo (with Polish "ł"), as aptly Joyce suggested. Country of last residence is Russia so mentioned before Woliszewo from Poznan area should be eliminated because it was located in Prussia then.

Wołuszewo was located in Russia or just at the border of Russia and Prussia. Maliszewo near Lipno was located in Russia. Both places were (and still are) located close to each other and the same time very close to the old border of the two countries: Prussia and Russia. Click here: http://tinyurl.com/cr83zw for present-day map of this area and compare below with the old map from 19th century (you can click on the map to enlarge).

Now, Wołuszewo then belonged to Raciążek parish, and Maliszewo to Lipno parish or, there was also second, very small, Maliszewo in Lipno area, belonging to Kikół parish.

I think now that in your further research you should focus on these two (or three) parishes.

I also checked for you that there is a gold mine of records for both Lipno http://tinyurl.com/6cot48 and for Raciążek parish: http://tinyurl.com/d2m38k in State Archives in Wloclawek

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

1/2pint — Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:44 pm

Author: 1/2pint

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:44 pm

Hi Rita & Zenon,

Hope these links help!
Clicking on right bottom of image will enlarge.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5013/coituszynski1mr5.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3905/coituszynski2jt0.jpg

Resizing

Ciot — Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:07 pm

Author: Ciot

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:07 pm

Zenon wrote:

The pictures are still too small to be read...

I can guess you have the documents from Ancestry.com or Ellisiland. The original scans from these websites (around 1 MB size) should upload here without any problems.

Try with original scan without resizing or cropping it..

Zenon trying again with copy of my copy....hope this helps

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:05 pm

Author: Zenon

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:05 pm

The pictures are still too small to be read...

I can guess you have the documents from Ancestry.com or Ellisilsand. The original scans from these websites (around 1 MB size) should upload here without any problems.

Try with original scan without resizing or cropping it..

Ciotuszynski; Buza Ship records

Ciot — Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:17 pm

Author: Ciot

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:17 pm

Zenon wrote:

I am afraid the scan is to small to read anything from it... Do you possibly have larger file ..?

You can upload in this Forum picture files up to 1 MB (for example here: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=191 you can see very good pictures uploaded by BobK)

Zenon....thank you again for your help. I have cropped the shipping records; please let me know if that helps. Can you download it than resize it.

Thank you, Rita

Re: Ciotuszynski; Busa

Zenon — Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:29 am

Author: Zenon

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:29 am

I am afraid the scan is to small to read anything from it... Do you possibly have larger file ..?

You can upload in this Forum picture files up to 1 MB (for example here: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=191 you can see very good pictures uploaded by BobK)