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Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

davidckane — Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:11 pm

Author: davidckane

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:11 pm

Sophia wrote:

davidckane wrote:

Hi. Can anyone decipher the location in row 70 under the column entitled "Hailing place or Place of starting?" https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5RBV-M?i=456&wc=MX6L-ZPD%3A165933301&cc=1849782

I'm trying to figure out if this passenger manifest could be my great-grandfather. The date of the manifest is close to the date indicated on the naturalization record, which refers to Rypin -- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89Q4-436Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=KG3Q-3HW&i=966

Thanks!

Hi David,
On the ship manifest, I read it as "Strzyk" so looking at a map near Rypin, I am drawn to "Strzygi." What do you think?
Sophia

Very possible. It looks like a "K" at the end, but this could be it. Thanks!

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Sophia — Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:01 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:01 pm

davidckane wrote:

Hi David,
On the ship manifest, I read it as "Strzyk" so looking at a map near Rypin, I am drawn to "Strzygi." What do you think?
Sophia

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

davidckane — Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:13 pm

Author: davidckane

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:13 pm

Hi. Can anyone decipher the location in row 70 under the column entitled "Hailing place or Place of starting?" https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5RBV-M?i=456&wc=MX6L-ZPD%3A165933301&cc=1849782

I'm trying to figure out if this passenger manifest could be my great-grandfather. The date of the manifest is close to the date indicated on the naturalization record, which refers to Rypin -- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89Q4-436Z?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=KG3Q-3HW&i=966

Thanks!

Re: Deciphering place name

bchocholek — Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:03 pm

Author: bchocholek

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:03 pm

dnowicki wrote:

bchocholek wrote:

Hi, I've had a photo of my 2nd great-grandfather's declaration of intention from when he left Poland for the USA. However, I've not been able to figure out the name of the last place of foreign residence he wrote down. I've tried guessing (it looks like Malamnuko or something similar to me but when I put that into google I get nothing haha) but I've not been able to figure it out yet. If anyone recognises it please let me know!

Thanks,
Bridget

Hi Bridget, Sophia & Marcel,

I agree with Sophia & Marcel that the place is Malanówko and that it extremely likely that the record Marcel located is for your ancestor, although the birth date is not in agreement with the date on the Declaration of Intention. Geneteka lists siblings of Franciszek with links to the scans at https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=07mz&rid=B&search_lastname=kopaczewski%20&search_name=tomasz&search_lastname2=&search_name2=walentyna&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable Malanówko was where all his siblings were born. The marriage of his parents and the birth record of his father are also indexed but without scans. The records are available at Family Search, but must be viewed at a Family History Center or affiliated public library.

To lock down confirmation that he is the correct person it would probably be helpful to contact the parish where he married and resided in Michigan. The Polish parish in the Lincoln Twp. was St. Florian in Standish. The parish has been consolidated with another and is now known as Resurrection of the Lord. Here is the link http://www.arenaccatholic.com/contact-us.html The marriage record should be able to confirm the names of his parents.

Wishing you continued successful research,

Dave

Hi Dave,

Thank you again for all your advice. I'll definitely have another go at using Family Search and have a look at what else might be indexed. Interestingly the birth date isn't the only thing that doesn't seem correct on the Declaration of Intention, there were 2 or 3 other bits of info that seemed a little off as well, so I'm just using it as a rough guide for information at the moment ????

Thanks again,
B

Re: Deciphering place name

bchocholek — Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:51 pm

Author: bchocholek

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:51 pm

marcelproust wrote:

Sophia wrote:

bchocholek wrote:

Hi, I've had a photo of my 2nd great-grandfather's declaration of intention from when he left Poland for the USA. However, I've not been able to figure out the name of the last place of foreign residence he wrote down. I've tried guessing (it looks like Malamnuko or something similar to me but when I put that into gogole I get nothing haha) but I've not been able to figure it out yet. If anyone recognises it please let me know!

Thanks,
Bridget

Hi Bridget,
It is probably Malanówko.
You can find it on google maps.
Best of luck in your research,
Sophia

I think you are right.
Malanówko belonged to the parish of Ligowo. There is a birth record of Franciszek Kopaczewski in this parish, in the year of 1868, birth place: Malanówko, parents: Tomasz Kopaczewski and Walentyna Słabowska.
Record numeber 138:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVC-ZL3G?cat=223710

Hi,

Thank you both for your deciphering! I've been trying different spellings for weeks now with no luck! I'll have a look at that record as well

Thanks,
B

Re: Deciphering place name

dnowicki — Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:22 pm

Author: dnowicki

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:22 pm

bchocholek wrote:

Re: Deciphering place name

marcelproust — Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:55 am

Author: marcelproust

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:55 am

Sophia wrote:

bchocholek wrote:

Hi, I've had a photo of my 2nd great-grandfather's declaration of intention from when he left Poland for the USA. However, I've not been able to figure out the name of the last place of foreign residence he wrote down. I've tried guessing (it looks like Malamnuko or something similar to me but when I put that into gogole I get nothing haha) but I've not been able to figure it out yet. If anyone recognises it please let me know!

Thanks,
Bridget

Hi Bridget,
It is probably Malanówko.
You can find it on google maps.
Best of luck in your research,
Sophia

Re: Deciphering place name

Sophia — Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:15 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:15 am

bchocholek wrote:

Hi, I've had a photo of my 2nd great-grandfather's declaration of intention from when he left Poland for the USA. However, I've not been able to figure out the name of the last place of foreign residence he wrote down. I've tried guessing (it looks like Malamnuko or something similar to me but when I put that into gogole I get nothing haha) but I've not been able to figure it out yet. If anyone recognises it please let me know!

Thanks,
Bridget

Hi Bridget,
It is probably Malanówko.
You can find it on google maps.
Best of luck in your research,
Sophia

Deciphering place name

bchocholek — Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:58 pm

Author: bchocholek

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:58 pm

Hi, I've had a photo of my 2nd great-grandfather's declaration of intention from when he left Poland for the USA. However, I've not been able to figure out the name of the last place of foreign residence he wrote down. I've tried guessing (it looks like Malamnuko or something similar to me but when I put that into google I get nothing haha) but I've not been able to figure it out yet. If anyone recognises it please let me know!

Thanks,
Bridget

Polish City Names SS George Washington Manifest NY 1910

grega — Wed May 27, 2020 9:24 pm

Author: grega

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:24 pm

My ancestor Adam Blacha gave the name of his "City or Town" as something like "Stywagut" (as I read it). Can you read this name? I attach 2 files: 1 with just the image of this town name , and the other with all the City names on the manifest.

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Sophia — Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 am

Angelamermaid wrote:

I'm looking for more information on Dzwiniac.

I recently found my grandfather's death certificate, published in British Columbia, Canada.

Born: Frederick Boyko
Aug 19 1893
Parents: Nick and Katherine.

This is all I have!

Hi,
If you go to google maps you can look at both Dźwiniacz Górny and Dźwiniacz Dolny which are, oddly, about 30 miles apart. I say oddly because there are many villages that occur in pairs, one being Górny and the other Dolny, and such pairs are usually quite close together. It is like saying Upper Dźwiniacz and Lower Dźwiniacz. Anyway, both of these villages are in southeastern Poland, very close to the border with today's Ukraine, although in the timeframe in which your grandfather was born they would have been in Galicia (the Austrian partition of Poland).
Best of luck in your research,
Sophia

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Angelamermaid — Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:24 pm

Author: Angelamermaid

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:24 pm

I'm looking for more information on Dzwiniac.

I recently found my grandfather's death certificate, published in British Columbia, Canada.

Born: Frederick Boyko
Aug 19 1893
Parents: Nick and Katherine.

This is all I have!

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Podjazd — Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:20 pm

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:20 pm

Actually, now I have my doubts.

I wonder if it might be Liudvinavas - which is much closer to Marijampole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudvinavas

This would make sense, as I see a reference to a Ludwinowo in the Kalwarja district near Marijampole that was a village where Jews lived.
https://suwalkigermans.wordpress.com/2016/03/16/2016-landsmen-post-3/

If true, could be bad news for my search (the linked post says there were no Jewish vital records saved from that district).

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Podjazd — Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:27 am

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:27 am

Thanks Gilberto! I think that's probably it!

Re: Leedvinovie, Russia

Anonymous — Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:54 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:54 pm

Podjazd wrote:

Hi

"Leedvinovie, Russia"

Anyone have any guesses as to what town this might have been? This appears on a US death certificate in 1933 as the birthplace of the deceased (a Jewish immigrant born in 1883). Her husband, also an immigrant, probably provided the American clerk with the name phonetically. The only thing close I get from Google searching is a town in Czechia but that doesn't make sense.

All US family records (census, and vital records) say the family was from Russia or Poland. We always believed they were from Marijampole, Lithuania (or near there).

John

John,

Ludwinowo
woj. podlaskie
pow. suwalski
gmina Raczki
kod: 16-420

about 50 miles southwest of Marjampole.

Gilberto

Leedvinovie, Russia

Podjazd — Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:16 pm

Author: Podjazd

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:16 pm

Hi

"Leedvinovie, Russia"

Anyone have any guesses as to what town this might have been? This appears on a US death certificate in 1933 as the birthplace of the deceased (a Jewish immigrant born in 1883). Her husband, also an immigrant, probably provided the American clerk with the name phonetically. The only thing close I get from Google searching is a town in Czechia but that doesn't make sense.

All US family records (census, and vital records) say the family was from Russia or Poland. We always believed they were from Marijampole, Lithuania (or near there).

John

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

BobK — Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:48 pm

Author: BobK

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:48 pm

Sophia wrote:

Hi Gilberto,
Thanks for adding this. If that is the Torun that Bob wants, then the reason he does not see it on these maps is that they are only for the old Russian Partition. The Torun near Bydgoszcz was just outside of that.
Best regards,
Sophia

Thanks Gilberto and Sophia.
I was a bit too quick looking it over.. Yes, with my German side of the family, I did a quick check for the Torun near Bydgoszcz, I wasn't even aware that there are others!
I had traced my German ancestors backwards from the Lipno area to many small villages along the way back to Torun.

The major maps I'd been working with - came from http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php. those are down to the trees, shrubs and rain puddles for detail.
Another I found shows Torun in the Prussion partiton of 1772, Lipno was added in 1793 to the Prussian partition. I'll take another look at that first site to see what they *are* describing ..

Added later:
On the Map58, it shows "Krolestwo Pruskie" where I expected to find the Torun I was looking for .. That translates to "Kingdom of Prussia" ! So being called a 1907 map threw me off. I know that Russia administered the Lipno/Plock area as being in their Partition. Other maps showed Torun in the Prussian Partition.. I know it was also called South Prussia for a time. I guess I'm heading back for more research..

Stepping back from that URL, we find that this is a map of the Kingdom of Poland.. Thus, Torun is in Prussia in 1907. Grandpa was born near Lipno in the Russian partition in 1881.

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

BobK — Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:41 pm

Author: BobK

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:41 pm

Duplicate, due to twitchy finger, deleted

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Sophia — Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:07 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:07 pm

Hi Gilberto,
Thanks for adding this. If that is the Torun that Bob wants, then the reason he does not see it on these maps is that they are only for the old Russian Partition. The Torun near Bydgoszcz was just outside of that.
Best regards,
Sophia

Re: Deciphering places names - please attach scans/pictures!

Anonymous — Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:33 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:33 pm

Sophia wrote:

Hi Bob,
Thanks for the link! Great resource.
You mentioned that you cannot find Torun on their map. I do see it. They link you to http://ipgs.us/mapinfo/atlas1907/maps/map10.jpg and you look at the grid for Column 1, Row C and there it is. Or is there a second Torun that you are looking for?
Sophia

Hi, Sophia

This Torun (currently a set of three places with that name) is near Nasielski. I think Bob referers to the Torun near Bydgoszcz, in kujawsko-pomorskie.

Gilberto