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re:Veracruz

nekocat — Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:35 pm

Author: nekocat

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:35 pm

thank you, I checked it but he wasn't on that list. it's a pity, it would have been a real boon to have found him. that's one of the things I'd like to find out, which way did he travel to get to Massachusetts? \it may have been by ship, he was a mariner, and often traveled back home by ship after being paid for work. so he might have boarded a ship in New Orleans and sailed north to Boston, or he may have paddleboated up the Miss' to the Ohio, or he might have ridden horseback or taken a train.

his name was Charles Wagner, and he lied at some point about his age. so did his son when he traveled. I assume this was to protect themselves from preditors, both claiming to be 3-5 years older than they actually were when they were on board. and maybe off board as well for my great grandfather, I know my grandfather lied on land as well as on board, we have proof of that.

Re: from Germany to Veracruz, and dna testing

Anonymous — Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:16 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:16 pm

Vera Cruz is the name of a port in Mexico. And it does make sense that the arrivals were in a southern port, such as New Orleans. You didn't mention your grandfather's surname, but I have found a list of passengers departuring from Vera Cruz to New York, in the same year you mentioned (1878). Here is the link so you can check the passengers list: http://immigrantships.net/1800/newyorkco780401.html

from Germany to Veracruz, and dna testing

nekocat — Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:00 pm

Author: nekocat

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:00 pm

recently I learned that my great grandfather arrived in New Orleans from Veracruz in 1878, but though I've tried to find further information in Veracruz, I've got no-where with it. has anyone had any success? do you know what ports he would have sailed from in Europe? where would I find more information regarding him? would he have police records? or are those for Germans and for a different time frame? he was, from what little I can find, out of Congress Poland. I'd love to learn more about him.

also, I have lots of Russian, Belaruss, Hungarian, German, and Polish cousins at 23andme.com, as well as a double handful or so of Ashkenazi cousins. many show up as low level shares in Ancestry Finder, some show up as 5th or closer cousins in either Ancestry Finder or Relative Finder. 99% of these people aren't sharing genes or communicating with me. there's so much that could be learned if they would share, and one or more of them could have the missing key to my 3 German/Slavic branches in my tree, all of which are mysteries to me, lacking a proper paper trail, though not for lack of trying. if you are a member of 23andme, please check and see if you share with me, and please at least agree to communicate!