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Re: Translate Name of Town

BobT — Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:04 pm

Author: BobT

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:04 pm

Yes, I have Marianna’s birth and Baptism record from Marzecice. Her brother Frank was my great grandfather. I have several docs from this town.

Re: Translate Name of Town

BarbOslo — Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:44 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:44 pm

BobT wrote:

The documents always say Poland, Germany or Prussia. The original document is the only one that I found that has the birth city named. If I can figure out that name, I might be able to find the church records for that town.

Marianna Strumpf was born Koziorzembski in Marzencitz (Marcencice).

But Marianna and John Paczkowski met in the U.S.

Hi,
It seems Marianna was born in Marzęcice. Marzęcice is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Kurzętnik, within Nowe Miasto County, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, in northern Poland.
I found Joseph Koziorzembski. He is Marianna's brother.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Translate Name of Town

Trish — Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:40 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:40 pm

BobT wrote:

Hi Bob, Barb, and Sophia,

Bob, I do understand that Marianna and John met in the USA. The marriage record you posted lists Marianna as a widow. The children listed from Mariannan's first marriage match the children in the 1900 census.

As for John (Jan) I believe I found his ship's manifest. However, it does not list a town of origin.

Name Jan Paczkowski
Gender Male
Age 23
Birth Date abt 1869
Departure Port Bremen and Southampton
Arrival Date 30 Mar 1892
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Ems

You are correct with stating that most records you are finding only list Poland, Austria, Russia, or Germany. Most records prior to 1900 will not list the actual name of the town. However, you can try to get the baptismal records of John (Jan) and Marianna's children. The baptismal records also could list the town of original for the parents. It's worth a try.

Regards,
Trish

Re: Translate Name of Town

BobT — Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:27 pm

Author: BobT

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:27 pm

The documents always say Poland, Germany or Prussia. The original document is the only one that I found that has the birth city named. If I can figure out that name, I might be able to find the church records for that town.

Marianna Strumpf was born Koziorzembski in Marzencitz (Marcencice).

But Marianna and John Paczkowski met in the U.S.

Re: Translate Name of Town

Trish — Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:20 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:20 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

BobT wrote:

The document is from 1895.

Oh yes. It is written in your first post. I believe that it will be difficult to move forward without the Manifest. Trish and Sophia, can you find anything?

-Barb

Hi Everyone,
This is the manifest I believe is for Marianna Strumpf. Marianna is traveling with her 1st spouse and their children.

Name Marianne Strumpf
Gender Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality Prussian (German)
Age 26
Birth Date abt 1861
Place of Origin Prussia
Departure Port Hamburg, Germany and Le Havre, France
Arrival Date 18 Apr 1887
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Rhaetia

Regards,
Trish

Re: Translate Name of Town

Trish — Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:57 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:57 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

BobT wrote:

The document is from 1895.

Oh yes. It is written in your first post. I believe that it will be difficult to move forward without the Manifest. Trish and Sophia, can you find anything?

-Barb

Hi Bob, Barb, and Sophia,

Bob, what USA documents do you have already on your family? What information do you know on Jan (John)? What year was he born?

I did see a 1900 census for a John being born around 1869, his wife was Marianna. They had Telka, Clara, and Robert. Marianna also had several children from a previous marriage. Those children surnames was listed as "Strump". Is this your family?

Let me know what USA records that you need.
Regards,
Trish

Re: Translate Name of Town

BarbOslo — Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:15 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:15 am

BobT wrote:

The document is from 1895.

Oh yes. It is written in your first post. I believe that it will be difficult to move forward without the Manifest. Trish and Sophia, can you find anything?

-Barb

Re: Translate Name of Town

BobT — Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:51 am

Author: BobT

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:51 am

The document is from 1895.

Re: Translate Name of Town

BarbOslo — Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:20 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:20 am

BobT wrote:

Thank you, Sophia and Barb. I’ll try that city first, and keep looking for a ship manifest, if not.

Hi ,
What about Koniuszkowo?
Pogrodzie borders on the Elbląg Upland Landscape Park. Until 1945, the town had the German name Neukirch-Höhe, after World War II it was changed to Koniuszkowo.
I don't know what year the document was issued?
-Barb

Re: Translate Name of Town

BobT — Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:35 am

Author: BobT

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:35 am

Thank you, Sophia and Barb. I’ll try that city first, and keep looking for a ship manifest, if not.

Re: Translate Name of Town

BarbOslo — Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:52 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:52 am

BobT wrote:

I everyone. I recently found this record, but am not sure what the name of this town is or what it might be called today. This document is from 1895 at a Catholic Church in St. Louis, MO.

Thank you for taking a look at it.

Hi Bob,
Do you have a Manifest or other documents where that name can be stated?

-Barb

Re: Translate Name of Town

Sophia — Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:24 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:24 am

BobT wrote:

Hi Bob,
It might be Kościuszkowo.
Best of luck in your search,
Sophia

Translate Name of Town

BobT — Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:11 am

Author: BobT

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:11 am

I everyone. I recently found this record, but am not sure what the name of this town is or what it might be called today. This document is from 1895 at a Catholic Church in St. Louis, MO.

Thank you for taking a look at it.