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Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:13 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:13 am

BarbOslo wrote:

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.

Where did you get the following records?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

From the Evangelical Augsburg Parish in Białystok.

-Barb

Thanks

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:09 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:09 am

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.

Where did you get the following records?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

From the Evangelical Augsburg Parish in Białystok.

-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:46 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:46 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.

Where did you get the following records?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Fri Oct 06, 2023 3:56 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 3:56 am

Is there a death record for Anna Rozyna Mathes nee Neumann in Turek after 1837?

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:03 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:03 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.

Wow, that was quick.

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:56 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:56 pm

Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:51 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:51 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

I think that Henryk Mathes worked in a circus in Białystok around the 1870s. That is what I heard from my great grandmother.

By the way, This a translation of Traugott Mathes and Rachel weber Marriage Record translated by you a few months ago:

https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=18967&sid=012b47e4eef11a004d94c86a35805d9b

I remember that, but do you have the date of death for Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber?

No, I have no death date of them. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Best regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:44 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:44 pm

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

I remember that, but do you have the date of death for Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber?

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:35 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:35 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:31 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:31 pm

His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

What else do you know about the parents of Henrik Mathes / Matys 1839-1872? Do you have a date of death for both of them?
-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:02 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:02 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

Ok. If his parents were married in Turek (Poznan), then Henrik must have been born in Turek (Poznan) or in the area. I have checked the birth register for the years 1838-1842 and he is not to be found there (see: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am).
- Barb

Would he be born around that parish then? Could you also translate the whole death record to get an idea of it? Sorry that I am asking you alot of things.

Hello,
After a few hours of searching, I found Henryk's birth record. He was born as Jan Henrych Matais, on May 21, 1839 at 6 a.m. in the town of Turek. Attaches this record: (no. 115 from the Catholic Church in Turek). He also had a sister named Joanna Fryderyka born on September 30, 1843 in Turek. She married Rudolph Krosta on August 6, 1865 in Białystok (ewang.)

Best regards,
-Barb

Thanks alot.

Edit:

Is there a way that i could pay you for this research you have done? I would also like the death records of Traugott, Traugott's Mother in Turek after 1837, Rachel's parents in Turek after 1837.

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:45 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:45 am

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Would he be born around that parish then? Could you also translate the whole death record to get an idea of it? Sorry that I am asking you alot of things.

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:25 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:25 am

BarbOslo wrote:

Would he be born around that parish then? Could you also translate the whole death record to get an idea of it? Sorry that I am asking you alot of things.

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:18 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:18 am

His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

Ok. If his parents were married in Turek (Poznan), then Henrik must have been born in Turek (Poznan) or in the area. I have checked the birth register for the years 1838-1842 and he is not to be found there (see: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am).
- Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:11 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:11 am

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

I don't know if there is anything online. The parish of Pietkowo is the closest to Turek.
What do you know about the parents of Henrik, Franciszek Matys and Rachel Weber? It may be a thread to his birth. Is it coming from Poznan area?

-Barb

His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

Edit:

Could someone check if there is a mention of the surname Mathes in this parish through 1837 to 1845?

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=22073

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:07 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:07 am

BarbOslo wrote:

His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

Edit:

Could someone check if there is a mention of the surname Mathes in this parish through 1837 to 1845?

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=22073

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:03 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:03 am

I don't know if there is anything online. The parish of Pietkowo is the closest to Turek.
What do you know about the parents of Henrik, Franciszek Matys and Rachel Weber? It may be a thread to his birth. Is it coming from Poznan area?

-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:00 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:00 am

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

No, only the date of the burial.
-Barb

Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

I don't think so. Note that on this page, another person was born in Turek.
Checked the Evangelical parish in Turek (Poznan) for the years 1838-1842, and Henrik is not listed there.

-Barb

Where could I get parish registers of Gmina Poświętne? Thanks

Re: Death Record - Search Request

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:46 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:46 am

BarbOslo wrote:

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

No, only the date of the burial.
-Barb

Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

I don't think so. Note that on this page, another person was born in Turek.
Checked the Evangelical parish in Turek (Poznan) for the years 1838-1842, and Henrik is not listed there.

-Barb

Where could I get parish registers of Gmina Poświętne? Thanks

Re: Death Record - Search Request

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am

HelpTheFamily wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

No, only the date of the burial.
-Barb

Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

I don't think so. Note that on this page, another person was born in Turek.
Checked the Evangelical parish in Turek (Poznan) for the years 1838-1842, and Henrik is not listed there.

-Barb