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Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:28 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:28 am

BarbOslo wrote:

About Konstancja
As you can see the children of Wincenty Mudrygal and Katarzyna Zalewska were born in different places. Vincenty was a soldier.
When Konstancja married Ferdynand in February 1843, she was 17 years old. This gives an estimated birth year approx. 1826. Her parents married in February 1827. At Genetyka I found Konstancja who was born in 1826 and her mother was Katarzyna Zalewska. Was she an illegitimate child? Her father could at that time be stationed in Bialystok. See attachment (bottom left side).

About Wincenty jr.
Do you remember the death record from 1859 from Bialystok? There we can read that Wincenty died at the age of approx. 20 years, and that his father was a soldier. No parents were listed in this document.

-Barb
I send by mail.

Thanks alot.

Edit:

According to Wincenty's marriage record, it says he was a unterofficer of the fifth company of the Łuck Grenadier Regiment (?). I looked up the regiment name but wasn't able to find it until i searched up the term, 'Lutsk Grenadier Regiment '.

Here is what I found:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_Separate_Corps

Here's the question; Where could I obtain records of Wicenty's Miltary Personnel (if there is even one)?

Thanks in advance

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:21 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:21 am

About Konstancja
As you can see the children of Wincenty Mudrygal and Katarzyna Zalewska were born in different places. Vincenty was a soldier.
When Konstancja married Ferdynand in February 1843, she was 17 years old. This gives an estimated birth year approx. 1826. Her parents married in February 1827. At Genetyka I found Konstancja who was born in 1826 and her mother was Katarzyna Zalewska. Was she an illegitimate child? Her father could at that time be stationed in Bialystok. See attachment (bottom left side).

About Wincenty jr.
Do you remember the death record from 1859 from Bialystok? There we can read that Wincenty died at the age of approx. 20 years, and that his father was a soldier. No parents were listed in this document.

-Barb
I send by mail.

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 am

Hello,
I worked for a few hours last night to get this overview. I have looked at all the documents connected to the families. Sending you back what I found (new information is marked in bold).
Unfortunately, I can't help more. There are no more documents.
Regards,
-Barb

BULWINA FAMILY

Ferdynand Bulwin
Father: Mateusz Bulwina (died before 1838)
Mother: Anna nee Arent (Smit)
Born: July 6th, 1819
Birthplace: Bobra, Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie
Marriage: February 7th, 1843
Marriage Place: Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie
Death: After 1865
Death Place: (Most likely) Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie

Bogumiła Bulwin
Father: Mateusz Bulwina
Mother: Anna nee Arent (Smit)
Born: April 5th, 1828
Birthplace: Bobra, Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: April 12th, 1838
Death Place: Wasilków, Podlaskie

Jan Bulwin
Father: Mateusz Bulwina
Mother: Anna nee Arent (Smit)
Born: Around 1824
Birthplace: Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: April 8th, 1828
Death Place: Sieruciowce, Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie

Jan Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: January 4th, 1844
Birthplace: Młyn Nietupa, Krynki, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: March 27th, 1847
Death Place: Wasilków, Wasilków, Podlaskie

+ Marcella Bulwin

Adam Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: December 20 th, 1848
Birthplace: Białystok, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Franciszek Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: 1854
Birthplace: Młyn Nietupa, Krynki, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: April 22nd, 1858
Death Place: Jasionówka, Jasionówka, Podlaskie

Aleksander Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: October 17th, 1861
Birthplace: Kalinówka Folwark, Kalinówka Kościelna, Podlaskie
Marriage: July 7th, 1891
Marriage Place: Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown (after 1905)
Death Place: (Most Likely) Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie (his last child was born in Bialystok)

Emilia Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: September 7th, 1858
Birthplace: Kamionka, Jasionówka, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: November 25th, 1860
Death Place: Knyszyn, Knyszyn, Podlaskie

Ewa Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: 1867
Birthplace: Podlaskie
Marriage 1: before 1891
Marriage Place: Unknown
Marriage 2: January 31 st, 1927
Marriage Place: Białystok-Starosielce św.Andrzeja Boboli, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown (after 1927)
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

MUDRYKAŁJO FAMILY

Wincenty Mudrygajło
Father:
Mother:
Born:
Birthplace:
Marriage: February 20th, 1827
Marriage Place: Dąbrowa Białostocka, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown (Before 1875) between 1845 and 1878, most likely before 1859
Death Place: Unknown

Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Father: Antoni
Mother:
Born:
Birthplace:
Marriage: February 20th, 1827
Marriage Place: Dąbrowa Białostocka, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown (Before 1875) between 1845 and 1878, most likely before 1859
Death Place: Unknown

+ Konstancja Mudrygajło

Paulina Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: March 26th, 1828
Birthplace: Nierośno, Różanystok, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Piotr Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: November 23rd, 1830
Birthplace: Nowa Wieś, Dąbrowa Białostocka, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Wincenty Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: February 21st, 1837
Birthplace: Studzianki, Wasilków, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: November 4th, 1859
Death Place: Białystok, Białystok Wniebowzięcia NMP, Podlaskie

Marianna Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: Mai 14th,1839
Birthplace: Studzianki, Wasilków, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Mikołaj Aleksander Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: November 10th, 1841
Birthplace: Jurowce, Wasilków, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Adolf Andrzej Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: about 1846
Birthplace: Leńce, Podlaskie
Marriage 1: September 5th, 1878
Marriage Place: Zgierz, Łódzkie
Marriage 2: between 1890 and 1895
Marriage Place: most likely Zgierz or Łódź
Death: November 3rd, 1927
Death Place: Łódź-Łódź parish St. Józef, Łódzkie

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:34 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:34 am

Please help me find more details on both families (Mateusz & Anna, Ferdynand & Konstancja, and Wincenty & Katarzyna). It would be appreciated.

best regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:07 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:07 am

Here is the research of what I was able to find:

BULWINA FAMILY

Ferdynand Bulwin
Father: Mateusz Bulwina
Mother: Anna nee Arent (Smit)
Born: July 6th, 1819
Birthplace: Bobra, Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie
Marriage: February 7th, 1843
Marriage Place: Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie
Death: After 1861
Death Place: (Most likely) Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie

Bogumiła Bulwin
Father: Mateusz Bulwina
Mother: Anna nee Arent (Smit)
Born: April 5th, 1828
Birthplace: Bobra, Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: 1838
Death Place: Wasilków, Podlaskie

Jan Bulwin
Father: Mateusz Bulwina
Mother: Anna nee Arent (Smit)
Born: Around 1824
Birthplace: Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: April 8th, 1828
Death Place: Sieruciowce, Nowy Dwór, Podlaskie

Jan Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: January 4th, 1844
Birthplace: Młyn Nietupa, Krynki, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: 1847
Death Place: Wasilków, Wasilków, Podlaskie

Adam Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: 1848
Birthplace: Białystok, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Franciszek Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: 1854
Birthplace: Młyn Nietupa, Krynki, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: April 22nd, 1858
Death Place: Jasionówka, Jasionówka, Podlaskie

Aleksander Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: October 17th, 1861
Birthplace: Kalinówka Folwark, Kalinówka Kościelna, Podlaskie
Marriage: July 7th, 1891
Marriage Place: Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Dobrzyniewo Kościelne, Podlaskie

Emilia Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: September 7th, 1858
Birthplace: Kamionka, Jasionówka, Podlaskie
Marriage: N/A
Marriage Place: N/A
Death: November 25th, 1860
Death Place: Knyszyn, Knyszyn, Podlaskie

Ewa Bulwin
Father: Ferdynand Bulwina
Mother: Konstancja nee Mudrykałjo
Born: 1867
Birthplace: Podlaskie
Marriage: 1927
Marriage Place: Białystok-Starosielce św.Andrzeja Boboli, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

MUDRYKAŁJO FAMILY

Wincenty Mudrygajło
Father:
Mother:
Born:
Birthplace:
Marriage: February 20th, 1827
Marriage Place: Dąbrowa Białostocka, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown (Before 1875)
Death Place: Unknown

Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Father:
Mother:
Born:
Birthplace:
Marriage: February 20th, 1827
Marriage Place: Dąbrowa Białostocka, Podlaskie
Death: Unknown (Before 1875)
Death Place: Unknown

Paulina Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: March 26th, 1828
Birthplace: Nierośno, Różanystok, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Paulina Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: November 23rd, 1830
Birthplace: Nowa Wieś, Dąbrowa Białostocka, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Wincenty Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: 1837
Birthplace: Studzianki, Wasilków, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: November 4th, 1859
Death Place: Białystok, Podlaskie

Marianna Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: 1839
Birthplace: Studzianki, Wasilków, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Mikołaj Aleksander Mudrygajło
Father: Wincenty Mudrygajło
Mother: Katarzyna nee Zalewska
Born: 1841
Birthplace: Jurowce, Wasilków, Podlaskie
Marriage: Unknown
Marriage Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie
Death: Unknown
Death Place: (Most Likely) Podlaskie

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:11 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:11 pm

HelpTheFamily wrote:

Were you able to find anything about the Bulwina and Mudrykałjo family?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Hi Lucas,
No, I didn't have time for that.

-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:57 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:57 am

Were you able to find anything about the Bulwina and Mudrykałjo family?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm

HelpTheFamily wrote:

Could you be able to translate this record?

Hi,
This wedding record is written in Latin. No one is better at translating this than Dave, so move this to "Latin records translations". Translating this record word for word takes a long time for me.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:14 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:14 am

Could you be able to translate this record?

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:00 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:00 am

The only thing that really helped is that on their son's marriage record it says Ferdynand & Konstancja were alive and living in the parish of Dobrzyniewo Kościelne in 1891.

In the son's wedding from 1891, there is no information that the couple were alive at that time. So the date of birth of their last child is the last guaranteed date for Konstancja and minus 9 months for Fredynand.

-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:24 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:24 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

I would also like to know more about the Bulwina and Mudrygajło family too.

This search must wait, or someone can take it. I'm going back to work on Monday, and won't have much time to search.

-Barb

I took a look at geneteka again for both surnames but I didn't find anything. The only thing that really helped is that on their son's marriage record it says Ferdynand & Konstancja were alive and living in the parish of Dobrzyniewo Kościelne in 1891.

If you could help with Ferdynand & Konstacja's death records, it would help. Also, I would like to know more about their parents.

Thanks in advance,

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:53 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:53 am

BarbOslo wrote:

Ok, got that.

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:52 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:52 am

I would also like to know more about the Bulwina and Mudrygajło family too.

This search must wait, or someone can take it. I'm going back to work on Monday, and won't have much time to search.

-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:50 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:50 am

https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=D&w=10pl&rid=10366&search_lastname=szreder&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=1919&to_date=1919

Yes, this link is correct. Marcella died on July 18, 1919 in Bialystok at the age of 70. She left behind 5 children who are mentioned in this record. One of them is Felicja. Buried on the 19th in the parish cemetery. The cause of death was typhus.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:00 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:00 pm

I would also like to know more about the Bulwina and Mudrygajło family too.

Edit:

I think I found Gustaw Schroder's death record. I sent it to your email.

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:52 pm

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:52 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Are you sure that the date of death for Maria (Marcella) is correct? According to the death record, she died at the age of 81. This gives an estimated birth year of 1837. She was 18 years old when she married in 1865. This means that she was born approx 1847.

Generation 2
Maria née Bulwin (Marcella Bulwina) 3
Born: Unknown
Married: September 29th, 1865 - Białystok
Died: June 11th, 1918 - Białystok
Father: Ferdinand Bulwina (Ferdynand) 6
Mother: Constantia née Mudrygal (Mudrykałjo) 7

-Barb

I took a look at it and I am unsure about those names of her children as they don't mention my great grandmother and their siblings. If so, where it be?

Edit:

I found a potiential match but I cannot read this polish so I am not sure.

https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=D&w=10pl&rid=10366&search_lastname=szreder&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=1919&to_date=1919

Best regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:56 am

Are you sure that the date of death for Maria (Marcella) is correct? According to the death record, she died at the age of 81. This gives an estimated birth year of 1837. She was 18 years old when she married in 1865. This means that she was born approx 1847.

Generation 2
Maria née Bulwin (Marcella Bulwina) 3
Born: Unknown
Married: September 29th, 1865 - Białystok
Died: June 11th, 1918 - Białystok
Father: Ferdinand Bulwina (Ferdynand) 6
Mother: Constantia née Mudrygal (Mudrykałjo) 7

-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:19 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:19 am

What does it say for where he was born?
Edit:
Would there also be Gottlieb's wife's death record in Bilaystok too?
Best regards,
Lucas Kernan[/quote]

I think so, because I found no trace of them in Turek. His birthplace? Something like Wesen / Weseu. I do not know.
-Barb

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

HelpTheFamily — Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:10 am

Author: HelpTheFamily

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:10 am

BarbOslo wrote:

This is probably the death record of Gottlieb Weber. The father of Krystyna Rachel Matys nee Weber. He died on December 15th, 1874 in Bialystok at the age of 81.

-Barb

What does it say for where he was born?

Edit:

Would there also be Gottlieb's wife's death record in Bilaystok too?
Best regards,

Lucas Kernan

Re: Death Record - Search Request No. 2

BarbOslo — Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:36 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:36 am

This is probably the death record of Gottlieb Weber. The father of Krystyna Rachel Matys nee Weber. He died on December 15th, 1874 in Bialystok at the age of 81.

-Barb