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Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:32 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:32 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

SaintedDrew wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi SaintedDrew,
This I was able to find this afternoon. Unfortunately, without access to church records, I am unable to find more. I sent an email to the Mrzygłód parish yesterday. We can wait a few days.

Regards,
-Barb

Not sure if this helpful on the Polish side but ancestry.com found another branch in Poland.

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Hi,
That may be true, but I can't confirm it. Tomasz and Marianna married in 1829, so Tomasz jr. born in 1829 may be the couple's son. Can't confirm that without seeing the documents.

-Barb

If I ever see any documents. I will let you know. Unfortunely this is looking at others trees that match up. Thanks for the help and quick response.

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

BarbOslo — Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:53 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:53 am

SaintedDrew wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Not sure if this helpful on the Polish side but ancestry.com found another branch in Poland.

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Hi,
That may be true, but I can't confirm it. Tomasz and Marianna married in 1829, so Tomasz jr. born in 1829 may be the couple's son. Can't confirm that without seeing the documents.

-Barb

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:48 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:48 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Not sure if this helpful on the Polish side but ancestry.com found another branch in Poland.

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Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

Trish — Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:58 am

Author: Trish

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:58 am

Hi!
I forgot to tell you that Olga married around 1927 per the 1930 census.

Also, you can try to get Piotr Pastuch's naturalization record at the New Jersey State Archives. Piotr (Peter) was naturalized between 1920-1930 per the census records.

I sent you a pm.
Regards,
Trish

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:24 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:24 pm

Trish wrote:

SaintedDrew wrote:

Trish wrote:

Hi Barbara, Sophia, and SaintedDrew,

It seems SaintedDrew already has the marriage information for the children of Piotr and Katarzyna. In order to get the actual marriage record, SaintedDrew would need to go the New Jersey State Archives in Trenton, New Jersey.

The New Jersey State Archives has birth, marriage, and death records on microfilm. Copies of the record are 50 cents. You need to go in person in order to obtain some records up to 1963. Otherwise, if you mail in the request, the records only go up to 1940. New Jersey naturalization records are at the archives too. The staff there is wonderful and very helpful.

https://www.nj.gov/state/archives/index.html

Regards,
Trish

The marriage records for?:

John Pastuck
Mary Pastuck
Olga Pastuck

Might have more information on their parents origins? Would it be just these 3 or other siblings?
I live a few states away, but it is in the realm of possibilty.

Hi!
If you can go in person, the New Jersey State Archives has births records up to 1923, marriage up to 1949, and deaths up to 1963. The records are on microfilm in chronological order then they are in alphabetical order so it's easy to find records. The records are 50 cents a copy. The staff is wonderful.

If you cannot go in person and use their online form, the birth records go up to 1923, the death and marriage records only go up to 1940. Plus the fees are higher for the document and research.

If you can go in person, you should be able to find the birth records for all the children who were born in New Jersey. Just remember to look for various spellings such as Pastuch, Pastuck, and Postuch.

You should be able to get the death records for Piotr and Kataryzna. They will probably be under Peter and Katherine or Kathryn. Peter (Piotr) died April 16, 1949. Kathryn (Kataryzna) died January 30, 1955.

You should be able to find marriage records. Having exact years will be a big help.

I did not find any marriage information for John. All I saw was an obituary which lists a son named Arnold. No wife was listed.

Anna married Leroy (Roy) Bolton March 18, 1934 per a wedding announcement.

Mary was listed as Mary Postuch marrying WM per the NJ State Marriage Index. Her marriage was November 13, 1926 per a newspaper article.

I hope this helps some.
Trish

My wife has a trip to Atlantic City, NJ next month. so (just a warning) I might be asking more questions if we can stop by the courthouse during that time frame.

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:21 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:21 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Wow! You found quite a bit. Now I just need to figure out how to add this to my ancestry account.

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

Trish — Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:21 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:21 pm

SaintedDrew wrote:

Trish wrote:

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

BarbOslo — Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:18 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:18 pm

Hi SaintedDrew,
This I was able to find this afternoon. Unfortunately, without access to church records, I am unable to find more. I sent an email to the Mrzygłód parish yesterday. We can wait a few days.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:17 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:17 pm

Trish wrote:

The marriage records for?:

John Pastuck
Mary Pastuck
Olga Pastuck

Might have more information on their parents origins? Would it be just these 3 or other siblings?

I live a few states away, but it is in the realm of possibilty.

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

Trish — Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:28 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:28 pm

Hi Barbara, Sophia, and SaintedDrew,

It seems SaintedDrew already has the marriage information for the children of Piotr and Katarzyna. In order to get the actual marriage record, SaintedDrew would need to go the New Jersey State Archives in Trenton, New Jersey.

The New Jersey State Archives has birth, marriage, and death records on microfilm. Copies of the record are 50 cents. You need to go in person in order to obtain some records up to 1963. Otherwise, if you mail in the request, the records only go up to 1940. New Jersey naturalization records are at the archives too. The staff there is wonderful and very helpful.

https://www.nj.gov/state/archives/index.html

Regards,
Trish

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:05 am

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:05 am

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi SaintedDrew,
It is best if you contact the person who owns this family tree on Ancestry. Possibly she/he already has some documents. We are unsure of what you know and what you are looking for. I assume you have knowledge of the family after they came to the USA and you lack information about the time before that. Both Trish and Sophia can help and guide you. It would be nice if you could share something with us. Do you know anything about who Maria, Olga (Karolina), Jan married in the USA?

Best regards,
-Barb

You are correct. I'm looking for the time before the America roots. I have examined a few trees on Ancestry and they appear to be dead ends with Kathryn Pastuch and Peter Pastuck Sr.

I will take any guidance they would like to give me.

Marriage Info from Ancestry that I have found:

John Pastuck have not found any
Mary Pastuck spouse Wesley Joseph Menajlo
Olga Pastuck spouse Harry Vail Felmey

And again. Thank you for the help with this. I really appreciate it.

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:57 am

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:57 am

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Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:37 am

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:37 am

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Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

BarbOslo — Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:08 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:08 am

Hi SaintedDrew,
It is best if you contact the person who owns this family tree on Ancestry. Possibly she/he already has some documents. We are unsure of what you know and what you are looking for. I assume you have knowledge of the family after they came to the USA and you lack information about the time before that. Both Trish and Sophia can help and guide you. It would be nice if you could share something with us. Do you know anything about who Maria, Olga (Karolina), Jan married in the USA?

Best regards,
-Barb

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:06 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:06 pm

Trish wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Here is Katarzyna and the children coming to the USA. They are on lines 17-20. I'm not sure if you had this record. Sorry if I am duplicating your work. Once again, the town is listed but I need another set of eyes to verify the name of the town.

Enjoy your day!
Trish

Name Kataryna Pastuch
Gender Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality Polish
Marital Status Married
Age 34
Birth Date abt 1878
Birth Place Austria
Other Birth Place Bzlegud
Last Known Residence Kosziancika, Austria
Departure Port Trieste
Arrival Date 8 Jun 1912
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place Austria
Final Destination Milville, New Jersey
Height 5 Feet, 3 Inches
Hair Color Brown
Eye Color Brown
Complexion Fair
Person in Old Country Anna Pastuch
Person in Old Country Relationship Sister
Person in Old Country Residence Russia Kosziancika
Person in US Piotr Pastuch
Person in US Relationship Husband
Spouse Piotr Pastuch
Sibling Anna Pastuch
Ship Name Columbia

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

SaintedDrew — Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:31 pm

Author: SaintedDrew

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:31 pm

Thanks all for all the help. I am very new to this but I am excited to finally start seeing the threads of my family emerge that are from the Polish line.

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

BarbOslo — Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:32 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:32 pm

Hi Barb,
The children born in the USA to Piotr and Katarzyna were all born in Millville, New Jersey. Do you need information on them for I can provide it.

Here are the dates of birth for the children that were born in Poland. I am not sure if this will help you find a record for them.
Jan - born: 28 December 1903
Maria - born: 18 April 1905
Olga - born: 6 November 1907

I too saw Michal's manifest and his wife was Anna. It is great that you made the connection between Anna and Katarzyna.

Regards,
Trish[/quote]

Hi Trish,
It appears that all 3 (Jan, Maria and Olga) were born in Drohobycz (now Ukraine). If so, Maria was born there.
I can't find anything about Jan and Olga. In Manifest, Olga is called Karoline.
I thought marriage records might give us the place where they were born. In the manifest, the village of Bircza is entered.
Regards,
-Barb

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

Trish — Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:21 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:21 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Trish,
Are you able to find marriage records for the children of Piotr and Katarzyna? Also Maria (Mary), Jan, Karolina. Thinking the years 1920-1940.
It would be interesting to see where they were born.
-Barb

Hi Barb,
The children born in the USA to Piotr and Katarzyna were all born in Millville, New Jersey. Do you need information on them for I can provide it.

Here are the dates of birth for the children that were born in Poland. I am not sure if this will help you find a record for them.
Jan - born: 28 December 1903
Maria - born: 18 April 1905
Olga - born: 6 November 1907

I too saw Michal's manifest and his wife was Anna. It is great that you made the connection between Anna and Katarzyna.

Regards,
Trish

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

BarbOslo — Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:33 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:33 pm

Meg igjen...
I have mentioned that the surname Horbacz is to be seen in two Manifests. In it from 1912, Katarzyna states the name of the closest family member from her home country as Anna Horbacz in Wola Korzeniecka. In Manifest from 1905, Piotr says that he is going to visit Michal Horbacz.
I found a marriage record for Michal and Anna from 1901. Anna's maiden name was Starościak. According to this, Anna was born ab. in 1881 in Dębna. I found Anna's birth record in 1881 in the parish of Mrzygłód. Dębna belongs to this parish.
Starościak is also Katarzyna's maiden name. In the first post, SaintedDrew wrote that Katarzyna was born approx. 1885. I can see index from 1885 - Katarzyna Starościak Dębna parish Mrzygłód. It appears that Anna and Katarzyna are sisters. Or cousins. Unfortunately, I cannot see the names of Katarzyna's parents. While Anna's parents were Jan Starościak and Marianna Biega.

-Barb

Re: Looking for info on Pastuck family

BarbOslo — Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:25 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:25 am

Trish,
Are you able to find marriage records for the children of Piotr and Katarzyna? Also Maria (Mary), Jan, Karolina. Thinking the years 1920-1940.
It would be interesting to see where they were born.
-Barb