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Re: 19 year old letter never translated

paulsbates — Fri May 04, 2012 11:56 am

Author: paulsbates

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:56 am

thank you I found Zofie Gajda death certificate, now I just have to wait on the original , the spelling was Sophie Gida and she died in 1921 in Garfield New Jersey.

Re: 19 year old letter never translated

jozefs — Fri May 04, 2012 5:53 am

Author: jozefs

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:53 am

- I wrote - First time left the Polish to a colleague to the city of Garfield (?) then to Chicago.

- should be - First time left the Polish to a colleague to the city of Bondville then to Chicago.

Re: 19 year old letter never translated

paulsbates — Fri May 04, 2012 1:10 am

Author: paulsbates

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:10 am

that is very interesting, I have a picture of my Grandfather Stanley when he was six I think was taken on Morris street, When Frank Francesik Returns to Garfield after taking his children to Poland, he states he is staying with his brother in law John Socha, he is one street over Pacific ave. His wife is Victoria, I was thinking she would be related to franks wife Zofia and her maiden name might be Zajac. the Sochas are there in 1900, 1910,1920,1930, and have several children, I havent been able to find anything out about Victoria, Looking forward to corresponding with you! Thank you for your reply and help!
Paul

Re: 19 year old letter never translated

Potoczak — Thu May 03, 2012 8:33 pm

Author: Potoczak

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:33 pm

Paul,

I was raised in Garfield, NJ and born in Passaic, NJ. Garfield is a small town in Bergen County, NJ about 15 miles outside New York City. It has no hospitals. The nearest town that has hospitals and which likely had hospitals in the early 1900's is Passaic, NJ. My paternal grandparents lived in Garfield and their home was one block from Morris Avenue - I know the street well !

A cousin of mine was an assistant pastor and then pastor at Holy Rosary church in Passaic for many years. However, at the time your family was married there, pastor there was most likely Canon Kruczek (I think I have the spelling correct). Finally, my grandparents lived on Pacific Avenue for years and years. This is indeed a very small world. Please feel free to contact me. I don't know, but I may be able to put you in touch with some people who know/knew your family. Paula

Re: 19 year old letter never translated

paulsbates — Thu May 03, 2012 8:57 am

Author: paulsbates

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:57 am

THANK YOU THANK YOU ...I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this, I have had this letter since 1993, back then I didnt have the internet and a way to get this translated. You are very kind to do this and I really appreciate it. Now I know my GGrandmother died from turberculoses and not at child birth. Now I am going to quick concentrating on Garfield NJ and look for Hospitals back then.
God Bless
Paul

Re: 19 year old letter never translated

jozefs — Wed May 02, 2012 6:37 am

Author: jozefs

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:37 am

paulsbates wrote:

please help me

List z Polski
Dnia 10 sierpnia 1993
Kochany Pawle co wiem i pamiętam to ci napiszę mam jeszcze dobrą pamięć ty jesteś na pewno wnuk Staszka Gajdy który już nie żyje bo on miał dwie córeczki bardzo ładne i wzięły sobie mężów też ładnych bo mi Pola przysłała zdjęcia bardzo się cieszę moja rodzina jest bardzo ładna co do Poli to ja ją wychowałam dobrze jej ojciec jak ją przywiózł do moich rodziców to miała osiem miesięcy ale jak wszyscy ukończyli szkołę zrobili po siedem klas to zaczęli myśleć wyjechać do Stanów do ojca u moich rodziców mieli dobrze było dużo ludzi do pracy bo nie było wiele fabryk a mój ojciec skupował dużo koni i był dobrym znawcą do koni i leciał biznes a ludzie pracowali bo miał 33 morgi pola dobrego co do moich rodziców którzy nie żyją ojciec Andrzej i Agnieszka którzy nie żyją już więcej jak 30 lat co do twojej wiadomości o Franku on był dobry człowiek tylko go psuli koledzy i wódka ale jak przyjechał do Polski to nie był pijakiem był dobrym człowiekiem kochał swoje dzieci bardzo i swoich rodziców i całą swoją rodzinę a później wyjechał do stanów
druga żona Franka
tam się ożenił z Anielą Konefał ona zmarła na zawał serca w domu tak pisał Franek a co do pierwszej żony Franka Zofia Zając zmarła na gruźlicę tak pisał Franek ja tam nie byłam i nie widziałam jej to piszę co on pisał do swoich rodziców to ja wiedziałam o tym bo oni mówili też i bardzo płakali za nią i za wnuczkami i kazali mu żeby dzieci wszystkie przywiózł do nas i zaraz przywiózł ale nie myślał ale nie myślał wyjechać do stanów miał się żenić ale mu to nie wyszło i później wyjechał też nic dobrego
słuchaj Pawle(?) Zofia Zając pochodziła z Niska blisko Tarnobrzegu a gdzie pochowana to naprawdę nie wiem tyle wiem że pierwszy raz wyjechał z Polski do kolegi do miasta Garfield(?) później do Chicago tyle wiem o nim ale gdy pojadę do rodziny mojej może się coś więcej dowiem to ci na pewno napiszę a jak nie wiedzą to ci nie napiszę
Żegnam i całuję całą moją rodzinę dziękuję serdecznie za 5 dolarów
Ja zawsze piszę do Ani Węgrzyn
= = = = =
To understand the meaning of the letter, the original text require adjustment for translation.
10 August 1993
Dear Paul,
What I know and remember that you write.
I still have a good memory.
You are certainly Staszek Gajda grandson who was already dead.
He had two daughters very nice
and took the men too nice
Pola (Apolonia) sent me a picture.
I am very pleased
My family is very nice.
As for Pola - I raised her well.
When her father brought her to my parents
it took eight months
but they all graduated from school
(done after seven classes)
they began to think to go to the United States to his father.
In my parents they were right.
There was a lot of people to work
because there were many factories
and my father was buying a lot of horses
and was a good connoisseur of horses
and flew business
and people working
he had 33 acres of land of good.
As for my parents - the father of Andrew and Agnes who do not live no more than 30 years.
As for your message about Frank - he was a good man
it just spoiled colleagues and vodka
but how he came to the Polish
it was not a drunkard.
He was a good man,
he loved his children very
and their parents
and his entire family
and later moved to the states.

There he married Aniela (nee) Konefał (second wife of Frank).
She died of a heart attack at home.
So wrote Frank.
And as for Frank's first wife - Zofia (nee) Zając died of tuberculosis.
So wrote Frank.
I was not there and did not see her
I write what he wrote to his parents.
I knew this because they said it
and a cry for her and for the grandchildren
and told him that the children all brought to us
and immediately brought
but he did not go to the states.
He had to marry
but to him it did not work out
and then he left.
Also no good.
Listen to Paul - Zofia Zając
came from the town Nisko
near Tarnobrzeg
and where buried
I do not know.
I know so much
First time
left the Polish
to a colleague
to the city of Garfield (?)
then to Chicago.
So much I know about it
when I go to my family
may be something more we
are you sure you write
and I do not know
You will not write it
Good-bye and kiss my whole family.
Thank you very much for $ 5
I always write to Ania Wegrzyn

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19 year old letter never translated

paulsbates — Tue May 01, 2012 1:01 pm

Author: paulsbates

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:01 pm

My great grandfathers sister wrote me a letter in 1993 she was 87, I have never gotten it translated. I live in rural East Tennessee and very few polish people around, now with the internet I was hoping I could find someone that could translate this letter for me or know of how i can do it ..I tried to translate word for word with babylon but the hand writting has me questioning letters. if any one could please help me I would greatly appreaciate it,
Paul Bates