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Looking for some Buron/Mandrisch Vital records

briankaess — Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:03 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:03 pm

Hello,
Looking for some Buron/Mandrisch Vital records from Hohenbirken (Brzezie), Ratibor, Silesia or Pogwisdow, Ratibor, Silesia. My ancestor Georg Mandrisch appears to have died sometime between 1860 and 1880, perhaps earlier than 1876. His last child Johanna Mandrisch was born in 1860 and he was dead at the time of his daughter Jadwiga's wedding in 1880, per FS Community. I am also looking for the 1901 Civil or Church Death record for Johanna Mandrisch, nee Buron (Georg's wife not his daughter), which likely occured in Hohenbirken or nearby. The Mother of Jadwiga, Johanna (Buron) Mandrisch, was alive and living in Brzezie in 1880. It is not certain that 1901 is the right date, but a 1904 Civil Death record has been ruled out. Maybe BarbOslo can help. Thanks everyone for your wonderful help, Brian

Buron marriage info.

briankaess — Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:21 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:21 pm

Wojciech Schäffer - director at the Katowice Church Archives informed me today that Georg Mandrisch & Johanna Buron were married on September 27, 1843 in the Catholic Parish of Pogrzebien, Silesia. The groom, a bachelor, was 22 and the bride was 15. So, the previous Pschow marriage record of 1847, between Georg Manderla and Johanna Baron, that was juggled around as a possibiliy for awhile, has once again turned out to be the wrong one. As a consequence, my Buron's are still 'Polish' Buron's and not 'Czech' Buron's as I had previously thought.
Brian

Jendrzejczik's of Hohenbirken

briankaess — Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:42 am

Author: briankaess

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:42 am

I am trying to determine if Marianna Jendrzejczik of Hohenbirken, Ratibor, Silesia, Germany, who married Johann Dudek in 1888 (in Hohenbirken) is related to Josef & Franz Jendrzejczik, brothers, who were both married in Hohenbirken in 1879 and 1883, respectively. The brothers were married to Mandrisch relatives of mine: Caroline & Johanna.
Thanks,
Brian

Received some more Info from the Katowice Catholic Archives

briankaess — Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:52 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:52 pm

Hello,
I have some received some more info on the Droszdzok/Drozdzok/Niestroy Family from the Catholic Archives in Katowice. It appears Gregor Droszdzok was born/baptized 3 March 1824 in Pogwisdow, Hohenbirken, Ratibor, and married Magdalena Kapuscik on Nov 24 1846 in Pogrzebin, Ratibor. He had two brothers: Johann Droszdzok who was born/baptized on 12 October 1821 in Pogwisdow, Hohenbirken, Ratibor, and Franz Droszdzok, who was born/baptized on 1 August 1826 in Pogwisdow, Hohenbirken, Ratibor. Gregor's Father was Severin Drozdzok who was married to Hedwig Niestroy on Aug 1 1820 in Pogrzebin, Ratibor. She is also mentioned as Francisca Niestroy in Gregor's baptism record, but as Hedwig Niestroy in the siblings baptism records. Her father is Johann Niestroy, b. abt 1770. Johann would be my 5th ggrandfather. Anyone who can add anything- feel free to weigh in.
Brian Paul Kaess

Looking for Info on Johann Buron

briankaess — Tue May 14, 2024 4:45 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 4:45 pm

Hello,
Looking for info (parents, siblings, spouse, children) for Johann Buron (abt 1780- 1858) who lived in Pschow, Kreis Rybnik, Upper Silesia. He had a daughter Johanna (also Marie) Buron (1821-1901) who was married to Georg Mandrisch (1821-bef 1879) in 1847 in Pschow, Kreis Rybnik. This Kreis is adjacent to Kreis Ratibor wheere Georg & Johanna (Buron) Mandrisch settled. Need a little help.
Brian

Re: Seweryn Drosczok

BarbOslo — Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:22 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:22 am

briankaess wrote:

The Father of Gregor Drosczok is Seweryn, per the Catholic Church Archive in Katowice. They also say that they have located the baptism record for Gregor and the Marriage record for his parents. This is early 1800's or so. Brian

Hi,
I think he finds more than that. I have been in contact with him before, and he responds quickly. Best to send all the information you're looking for and everything you've found, so he spends less time.
-Barb

Seweryn Drosczok

briankaess — Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:46 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:46 pm

The Father of Gregor Drosczok is Seweryn, per the Catholic Church Archive in Katowice. They also say that they have located the baptism record for Gregor and the Marriage record for his parents. This is early 1800's or so. Brian

Dr. Wojciech Schäffer on Gregor Drozdzok

briankaess — Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:15 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:15 pm

Dr. Wojciech Schäffer (of the Catholic Church Archives in Katowice) on Gregor Drozdzok
"God bless.
I have some good news about my ancestors...
Not only did I find:
1/ baptism certificate of Grzegorz Droszdzok
but also
2/ marriage certificate of his parents (father's name was Seweryn).
It is great luck because the wedding book from the Funeral has been preserved
only from 1819..."
Brian

Re: Reply to BarbOslo

BarbOslo — Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:03 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:03 pm

Hi,
Here is what I received today and applies to your family. Let me know if you want all those records. Can send these by e-mail.
-Barb

Stanislaus Kokott, a son of Jacob Kokott and Apolonia nee Nierzwoll
Born on November 18th, 1863 in Adamowice
Died on February 2nd, 1911 in Adamowice
Married on January 30th, 1887 to Johanna Kucznierz, a daughter of Simon Kucznierz and Antonina nee Zientek
Johanna Kucznierz
Born on December 21st, 1861 in Adamowice
Died on August17th, 1942 in Adamowice

Franz Kokott, a son of Jacob Kokott and Apolonia nee Nierzwoll
Born on April 13th, 1859 in Adamowice
Died on May 7th, 1918
Married on Juny 21st, 1886 to Johanna Mandrysch, a daughter of Mathias Mandrysch and Catharina nee Dlugosch
Johanna Mandrysch
Born on September 2nd, 1859 in Adamowice

Franz Drosczok, a son of Gregor Drosczok and Magdalena Kapusczik
Born on September 24th, 1849 in Brzezie
Died after 1907
Married on February 8th, 1876 to Marianna Mandrisch, a daughter of Gregor Mandrisch and Johanna Buron
Marianna Mandrisch
Born on October 15th, 1849 in Brzezie
Died on September 21st, 1907 in Brzezie

Franz Sochira / Sochiera, a son of Julius Sochira and Marianna Golombek
Born on Juny 6th, 1863 in Rudnik
Married on May 27th, 1888 to Caroline Drozdzok, a daughter of Georg Drozdzok ang Magdalena Kapuscik
Carolina Drozdzok
Born on May 6th, 1860 in Brzezie

Re: Reply to BarbOslo

BarbOslo — Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:21 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:21 pm

Hedvig (Jadwiga) Jendrzejczik nee Mandrisch, a daughter of Georg Mandrisch and Johanna nee Buron
Born on October 16th, 1849 in Brzezie
Died on December 10th, 1890 in Brzezie
Married on Juny 14th, 1880 to Nicolaus Chluba, a son of Franz Chluba and Hedvig nee Michal.
Nicolaus was a widower when he married Hedvig.

Nicolaus Chluba
Born on December 5th, 1845 in Rzuchów (germ. Schönburg)

Paulina Burda nee Drozdzok, a daughter of Franz Drozdzok and Marianna nee Mandrisch
Born on February 9th, 1877 in Brzezie
Died before 1910?
Married on May 13th, 1900 to Emanuel Burda, a son of Ignacy Burda and Marianna nee Jendrzejczik

Emanuel Burda born on December 24th, 1876 in Brzezie

On Monday I will receive the next order. It will be the last.
-Barb

Re: Reply to BarbOslo

BarbOslo — Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:00 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:00 pm

briankaess wrote:

Yes, I could use them. my email is bkaess@protonmail.com
Brian

Hi Brian,
I have received the ordered documents from the State Archives in Katowice. Unfortunately, I don't have time today to look at more. Sending what I managed today.

Karoline Jendrzejczik nee Mandrisch, a daughter of Georg Mandrisch and Johanna nee Buron
Born on January 21st, 1853 in Brzezie
Died on November 5th, 1911 in Brzezie
Married on July 21st, 1879 to Franz Jendrzejczik, a son of Joseph Jendrzejczik and Johanna nee Richter.

Franz Jendrzejczik
Born on August 29th, 1856 in Brzezie
Died before November 1911.

Johanna Jendrzejczik nee Mandrisch, a daughter of Georg Mandrisch and Johanna nee Buron
Born on August 3rd, 1860 in Brzezie
Died on August 18th, 1943 in Brzezie
Married on November 12th, 1883 to Josef Jendrzejczik, a son of Joseph Jendrzejczik and Johanna nee Richter.

Josef Jendrzejczik
Born on March 14th, 1859 in Brzezie

Karoline and Johanna Mandrisch married the Jendrzejczik brothers.
Georg Mandrisch died before July 1879.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Looking for Info on Hohenbirken Ancestors

BarbOslo — Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:04 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:04 pm

Done!

Reply to BarbOslo

briankaess — Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:02 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:02 pm

Yes, I could use them. my email is bkaess@protonmail.com
Brian

Re: Looking for Info on Hohenbirken Ancestors

BarbOslo — Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:04 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:04 pm

Brian, I need your email to send you the documents. Do you need these?
-Barb

Re: Looking for Info on Hohenbirken Ancestors

BarbOslo — Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:03 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:03 pm

The file was too large. Can send by e-mail.

Re: Reply to BarbOslo

BarbOslo — Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:02 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:02 pm

briankaess wrote:

Gregor's name is also Grzegorz Drożdżok. He married Magdalena Kapusczik (Kapuścik) on 24 November 1846 in Pogrzebin. I do not have the exact date of Death, just the year. 1879 for Magdalena and 1877 for Gregor, both in Hohenbirken. No documents. She was 28 y/o at time of marriage, Gregor was 23 y/o. They are my 3rd Great Grandparents. This is similar to my initial post. Would like to share info with you.
Brian

Hallo again,
This is what I was able to read in these death records. Michael can certainly help with a complete translation.

Gregor Drosczok died at the age of 52, on April 29th, 1877 in Pogwizdow, Catholic, a son of unknown parents, he was born in Pogwizdow.

Magdalena Drozdzok nee Kapuscik died at the age of 61, on December 15th, 1879 in Brzezie, Catholic, a daughter of deceased parents, Pawel and unknown mother, she was born in Brzezie, a widow of Gregor.

Marianna Drozdzok nee Mandrisch, died at the age 58, on September 21st, 1907 in Brzezie, Catholic, a daughter of Georg Mandrisch and Johanna nee Buron, she was born in Brzezie, she left her husband Franz.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Reply to BarbOslo

BarbOslo — Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:27 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:27 pm

briankaess wrote:

Hi,
I have ordered three death records from the State Archives in Katowice / Raciborz.
Gregor Drosczok, 1877
Magdalena Drozdzok, 1879
Drozdzok Marianna, 1907
Will have a look at it tonight and will send it to you later.

-Barb

Reply to BarbOslo

briankaess — Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:14 pm

Author: briankaess

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:14 pm

Gregor's name is also Grzegorz Drożdżok. He married Magdalena Kapusczik (Kapuścik) on 24 November 1846 in Pogrzebin. I do not have the exact date of Death, just the year. 1879 for Magdalena and 1877 for Gregor, both in Hohenbirken. No documents. She was 28 y/o at time of marriage, Gregor was 23 y/o. They are my 3rd Great Grandparents. This is similar to my initial post. Would like to share info with you.
Brian

Re: Looking for Info on Hohenbirken Ancestors

BarbOslo — Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:22 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:22 pm

Hello Brian,
What do you know about Magdalena and Gregor Drozdzok. What documents do you have?
Do you have the exact date of death for the two of them and daughter Marianna.
Regards,
- Barb

Re: Reply to BarbOslo

BarbOslo — Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:59 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:59 am

BarbOslo wrote:

briankaess wrote:

Is there any way you could get birth date/place info on the siblings? Just wondering.

.

I am working on the case. I sent an email to the archive in the Katowice department of Raciborz, but it takes time for them to reply.

-Barb

Hello,
Good news! I have ordered 3 documents from Archives in Katowice. I'll get these on Monday at the latest. Let's hope we are given more information.

-Barb