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Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:32 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:32 pm

Excellent, thanks again!

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:03 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:03 pm

Correct. Both came from the same place.

a loco idem (Latin) - from the same place
B.

Re: Help finding a village

mm_88 — Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:44 pm

Author: mm_88

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:44 pm

Hello! Yes, this document indicates Żodziszki we mentioned before, now in Belarus (Жодзішкі).

14th January 1924

Stanisław Grzyb from parish Żodziszki, Wilno
son of Karol (Grzyb) i Karolina Kościszewska
baptized 1895

and Stanisława Konowska
(I think the same parish as Stanisław?)
daughter of Wincenty (Konowski) and Helena Saniuk
baptized 1904

witnesses: Tomasz Szyło (?) and Feliksa Grzyb

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:18 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:18 pm

Hello, I'm back with another request for a bit of help. I've received the church marriage record and although it's from the US, they were married in a Polish church by a Polish priest, so I'm hoping these spellings are the most accurate so far.

Do you still think the parrish listed here for Stanislaw is the one in Belarus that we previously thought? When I Google this spelling, I'm brought to this town in modern day Lithuania: Žudiškės.

Can anyone tell me what it says for Stanislawa's birth place?

Lastly, I can mostly make out the letters, but can anyone with more knowledge of Polish names help me with accurately spelling everyone's name? Thanks again everyone!

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:12 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:12 pm

Wow, thank you so much! You are all so quick and great at this!

Re: Help finding a village

mm_88 — Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:15 am

Author: mm_88

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:15 am

Yes, it looks like Syczynięta.
I think this is his Passenger list. He was going to Portland, like Frank Konan https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJ1H-KYZ

And possible WWI registration card https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZFY-YRZ?cid=fs_copy

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:42 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:42 pm

I've just received the alien registration for Stanislaw, Stanislawa's husband, (apologies, I'm perhaps overly excited!) His record says he's from "Saczynietz, Wilno, Poland." Should I assume this is the the Syczynięta rural district that was mentioned above?

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:06 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:06 pm

I have seen this too, but as you pointed out it is a bit too early.
B.

Re: Help finding a village

mm_88 — Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:55 pm

Author: mm_88

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:55 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi,
Unfortunately, I find nothing directly related to the parish of Żodziszki. Monika, do you see something? Then it is best to contact the archive in Grodno.

-Barb

Barb, I found this but it ends in 1879 https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/835272?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:03 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:03 pm

Hi,
Unfortunately, I find nothing directly related to the parish of Żodziszki. Monika, do you see something? Then it is best to contact the archive in Grodno.

-Barb

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:31 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:31 pm

mm_88 wrote:

Hello,
here are some records that I think relate to Stanislawa's brother, Michael

marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2489-5NC (parents: Vincent & Helen)

1930 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQTW-52C (Sterling, Worcester, Massachusetts; cousin: Frank Konan)

possible Frank's passenger list https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJKB-GY4 (from "Smorgon", his father was Stanisław Konan from, "Kopaczi", Wilno). I haven't found Michael's passenger list.

Smorgonie and Kopacze are now in Belarus, 25 km apart, close to Syczynięta mentioned by Marcel https://www.kami.net.pl/kresy/ Kopacze belonged to parish Żodziszki

Can you suggest where to look for Parrish records? I tried Familysearch but most of the records I see are from the Krakow area. I should be searching for Żodziszki, not Kopacze, right? You have all made more progress for me in one day than I've made in weeks!

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:48 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:48 pm

Wow, I forgot to check back here for a day and you have all found so much! This is really cool, thank you!

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:48 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:48 pm

mm_88 wrote:

Hi,
Thank you Monika and Marcel. We can disregard the last place of residence stated in the Manifest. I will see if I can find any documents for the parish of Żodziszki.

-Barb

Re: Help finding a village

mm_88 — Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:51 am

Author: mm_88

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:51 am

Hello,
here are some records that I think relate to Stanislawa's brother, Michael

marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2489-5NC (parents: Vincent & Helen)

1930 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQTW-52C (Sterling, Worcester, Massachusetts; cousin: Frank Konan)

possible Frank's passenger list https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJKB-GY4 (from "Smorgon", his father was Stanisław Konan from, "Kopaczi", Wilno). I haven't found Michael's passenger list.

Smorgonie and Kopacze are now in Belarus, 25 km apart, close to Syczynięta mentioned by Marcel https://www.kami.net.pl/kresy/ Kopacze belonged to parish Żodziszki

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:42 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:42 am

Hello,
Houston, we have a problem
There are 300 km between the two places. Were there other family members who came to the US earlier or later?
-Barb

Re: Help finding a village

marcelproust — Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:03 am

Author: marcelproust

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:03 am

The Geographical Dictionary of the Kingdom of Poland provides information about the village In the Wilno area: Kapacze.
Here is an excerpt.
Maybe this will be a clue.
This is one of the villages that are part of the Syczynięta rural district.

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:02 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:02 pm

Thank you so much, this is a good place to start!

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:48 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:48 pm

kaselee8 wrote:

Hi Barb, thanks for the reply! Her maiden name was Stanislawa Konon or Konowska, her married surname was Grzyb. Her US marriage certificate lists her parents names as Vincent Konowska and Helena Taniuk. I'm attaching the ship manifest (she is row 2), the alien registration form, and marriage certificate. I also want to look into her husband, but I don't have enough supporting documents yet to know where to start. Thanks for any help you can provide!

Hi,
In Stanislawa's (Stella's) manifest, I can read that her last place of residence was Kibarty in Lithuania. I found a town with that name. See map.
Kibarty (lit. Kybartai) is a city in Marijampolė County, Lithuania. It is located 20 km west of Vilkaviškis and is on the border of Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia.
Not sure if that's the place you're looking for.
I didn't find any place called Kapaczy, or anything similar.

Regards,
-Barb

Re: Help finding a village

kaselee8 — Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:01 pm

Author: kaselee8

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:01 pm

Hi Barb, thanks for the reply! Her maiden name was Stanislawa Konon or Konowska, her married surname was Grzyb. Her US marriage certificate lists her parents names as Vincent Konowska and Helena Taniuk. I'm attaching the ship manifest (she is row 2), the alien registration form, and marriage certificate. I also want to look into her husband, but I don't have enough supporting documents yet to know where to start. Thanks for any help you can provide!

Re: Help finding a village

BarbOslo — Sat Jun 01, 2024 11:44 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 11:44 am

kaselee8 wrote:

Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me find my great-grandmother's birth place so I can search for birth records. This info comes from her US alien registration but the English spelling must be pretty far off because Google isn't turning up anything. I'm also not very familiar with the country boundaries in the early 1900s, so I'm not even sure if I should be searching Polish, Lithuanian, or Russian archives. This is exactly how the place is written on the document I have:

I was born in or near:
City: Kapaczy
Province: Wilno
Country: Poland, Russia
I am a citizen or subject of: Poland

If it's helpful, she was born in 1900 and arrived in the US in 1923.
Thanks!

Hi,
Do you have a ship's manifest or other document that you can share with us?
What is your great grandmother's name?
Regards,
-Barb