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AndrewTylka — Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:20 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:20 pm

I found out some interesting information about Albina and Michael. I got some information from a family member that went to Poland and they said that albinas parents may have been Josef Chlebek and Mary ciszek. They also said that according to other family members that michael is buried in Poland. So the theory that he died in 1900 with a second wife is plausible.

Re: Tylka Family

AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:13 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:13 pm

I guess for the time being the only thing I really want to know more about is michael and Albina's children and what happened to them.

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BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:10 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:10 pm

AndrewTylka wrote:

It is good to know all of this information. For about a year all I knew about Michael's family was that his parents were adelbertus and theresia. It is good to know that his parents were actually Jan and Marianna. Is there anything else on Jan and Marianna. Did they have more kids, marriage records, anything on their birth?

Unfortunately, I don't know anything more about Jan and Marianna and Michael's siblings. I don't know where the family came from. Maybe in the Chocholowka area?
- Barb

Re: Tylka Family

AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:21 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:21 pm

It is good to know all of this information. For about a year all I knew about Michael's family was that his parents were adelbertus and theresia. It is good to know that his parents were actually Jan and Marianna. Is there anything else on Jan and Marianna. Did they have more kids, marriage records, anything on their birth?

Re: Tylka Family

BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:40 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:40 pm

Yes, it's the same Antoni. He was a widower, 34 years old when he married Anna Liszka, on November10th, 1903 in the parish of Limanowa. Anna was the daughter of Jan and Maria nee Król, 23 years old. His surname was Dębski / Dembski.

-Barb

Re: Tylka Family

AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:09 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:09 pm

Here are the pictures:

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BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:04 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:04 pm

AndrewTylka wrote:

I'm new to this website, can you explain how to attach pictures?

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AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:43 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:43 pm

I'm new to this website, can you explain how to attach pictures?

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BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:41 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:41 pm

Do you have any document I can look at?
B.

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AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:06 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:06 pm

This is confusing but it shows antoni being married to an Anna born about 1880 and died in 1957. It says they were married 10/11/1903 in poland.

Is this the same antoni?[/img]

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BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:54 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:54 pm

Yes, Antonius (Latin) - Antoni. According to this marriage record, he was born ab. 1869.
- Barb

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AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:36 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:36 pm

I'm looking through wiktorias information and it says she was born in limanowa on the 14th of December 1862. It listed these people as her siblings:

Joanes, born 7th of April, 1866
Antonius, born 29th of May, 1869

Could antonius be antoni?

Re: Tylka Family

BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:23 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:23 pm

AndrewTylka wrote:

This may be a coincidence. You said that Bronislawa married Antoni Debski. Bronislawa's brother Brony Sr. Married Antonina Suder. Antonina's mother was Wiktoria debski/debska. Could there be a relation?

I don't think so. Antoni Debski was the son of Pauli (Pawel) and Sophia (Zofia) nee Turkowicz. He was born in the parish of Limanowa.

-Barb

Re: Tylka Family

AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:10 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:10 pm

This may be a coincidence. You said that Bronislawa married Antoni Debski. Bronislawa's brother Brony Sr. Married Antonina Suder. Antonina's mother was Wiktoria debski/debska. Could there be a relation?

Re: Tylka Family

BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:58 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:58 pm

It is certainly possible that he died in the United States!
Note, that I wrote .....IF his new wife's name was Magdalena Wieczorek, then he died on January 13, 1900. I could not confirm this. It could be another person called Michael Tylka.
B.

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AndrewTylka — Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:43 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:43 pm

Thank you so much!

the info I had always seen about Michael was that he was born around 1845 and died in 1923 in the United states (unless I got the wrong information). There was a record of a michael tylka who died in Middlesex, New Jersey around March 1923.

I would definitely like to find out more about if he had a second wife/if he died in 1900.

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BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:11 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:11 pm

The children of Michael (Michał) Tylka and Albina nee Chlebek:

Born in Ciche parish Chochołów
Theophilus born ab.1871, married to Paulina Peronella Pasek (1902)
Wiktoria born ab.1874, married to Stanisław Lizon (1893)
Bronisława born ab. 1878, married to Antoni Debski (1894)
Carolina born 1879 in? - died 24.07.1885 in Wielopole

Born in Wielopole parish Wielogłowy.
Paulina born 14.03.1884
Bronisław born 19.02.1886
Józef born 7.03.1888, died 18.04.1888 in Wielopole
Albin born 1.02.1889, died 26.02.1889 in Wielopole
Józef born ? died 20.02.1889 in Wielopole
Hiacynt born 30.12.1889
Władysław born 16.04.1892, died 24.05.1892 in Wielopole
Aleksander born 25.10.1893

-Barb

Re: Tylka Family

BarbOslo — Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:08 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:08 pm

AndrewTylka wrote:

This may also be useful but I found records showing theresia and Adelbertus had a daughter named Theresia tylka, I couldn't find her birthdate.

I also found a record showing that michael and Albina had a daughter named maryanna/marianna. And there was mentions of a son named theophile.

Hi Andrew,
I managed to find some more information about your family. First explanation about Nowy Sacz and Nowy Targ. The locations are a little under 100 km from each other.
The Tylka-Chlebek family is connected to both places. The oldest children were born in Ciche parish Chochołów. I would think Michael and Albina also got married there. Then the family moved to the village of Wielopole, which belongs to the parish of Wieloglowy (see map). The other children were born in Wielopole.
Albina died in Wielopole, which I mentioned yesterday, and their children were married there as well.
I am now researching who Michael married after she died. Maybe it was Magdalena Wieczorek. If this is correct, then Michael died on January 13, 1900 in Wielopole.
I am also attaching the birth record for Aleksander (Michael and Albina's son born in 1893). There you can see who were the parents of Albina and Michael. So I confirming information from yesterday.
Michael's parents were Jan Tylka and Marianna nee Krzeptowska. Albina's parents were Jakub Chlebek and Anna Cikowska.

Regards,
- Barb

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AndrewTylka — Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:53 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:53 pm

This may also be useful but I found records showing theresia and Adelbertus had a daughter named Theresia tylka, I couldn't find her birthdate.

I also found a record showing that michael and Albina had a daughter named maryanna/marianna. And there was mentions of a son named theophile.

Re: Tylka Family

AndrewTylka — Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:46 pm

Author: AndrewTylka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:46 pm

I am mainly just looking for anything to fill the blanks (birthdates, place of birth, parents, grandparents, etc.)...I might have mentioned in my first post on here that my grandpas cousin did most of the family tree and genealogical work for decades. It appears he found that michaels parents were listed as Adelbertus/adalbertus tylka (born around April 3rd of 1808) and theresia turczonja. It seems he also found that adelbertus' parents were Joannis tylka and Marianna dozworzanka. It says that joannis and marianna had three kids. Mathous tylka, born around September 1813 and died in 1838. Adelbertus who I mentioned. And their first child I saw, catharina tylka born around 1805.

That's almost all I can remember as of right now, hope it helps.