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Stannowo Poland 1880-1915 What Country

MtUrczyk17 — Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:51 am

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:51 am

Thank you so much for this. I enlarged it and shared it with my class just now. My students are so impressed with ancestry now due to my current search. Many are learning to research their own roots. They are only 11 and 12 years old, but it has created much interest. You have been a part of my search but also through my role as a teacher, you have impacted the learning of 31 students here in California. This forum and all its contributors, are treasures.

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BarbOslo — Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:14 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:14 am

Hi Miriam,
The ordered wedding record from AP Wloclawek was sent today. I forwarded it to you by email.
-Barb

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents

MtUrczyk17 — Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:53 pm

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:53 pm

Thank you Sophia. I appreciate all the resources and information you are sharing about my dziadzia. I have been researching for years and just recently been able to begin locating important documents and other information, which makes me want to even learn more.

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Sophia — Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:18 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:18 pm

Just to add to what I wrote above, I made one more observation regarding the document you had posted as Antoni's manifest. It shows him coming from Thorn, which is today's Toruń. Fascinating history in this area.
Good luck with your research,
Sophia

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents

MtUrczyk17 — Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:35 am

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:35 am

I am hoping to find a good, readable history of Poland during the early 20th century (1900-WWI). I am interested in learning the conditions for "peasants" and "farmers" and what led to so many Poles leaving during this time. My grandparents left before WWI and I'd like to more fully understand their reasons. A personalized/anecdotal book would be welcome, as well.

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Sophia — Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:51 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:51 am

MtUrczyk17 wrote:

Hi Barb-
My dzia dzia was Antoni Urbanczyk/Urbanski and my bacia was Maryanna/Mania Klos(s)/Kloska. They came over separatedly. My dzia dzia first in 1912 and she came over with my aunt Josephine who was only 1 year old at the time, in 1913. Attached is the ship's manifest for Antoni. I cannot find any information on Antoni's parentage, but before one of my father's cousins passed, he told me that Antoni had a brother named Walter. I do know Maryanna had 8 sisters and 1 brother. Her parents, my great grand parents were Michal Klos and Konstancja Lewandowska(i).

Hi,

The image that you provided with this post on Sept. 14th is not actually Antoni's ship manifest. It is an interesting document, and I am curious where you found it. Unlike a ship manifest, it does not name his ship, or when it sailed. It appears to be a record of the tickets that were purchased for sailing. It does not even provide the names of everyone who sailed - - for example, look at the first column, Volgnummer (Dutch for sequential number), which for Antoni is 52. Now scan up that column to people with a volgnummer in the 40's, and you will see that Fruma Friedman bought 3 tickets (the volgnummer column simply says "1/3" but this means numbers 41, 42 and 43) while Beile Dinerstein bought 2 tickets (volgnummer "5/6" which means numbers 45 and 46) and so on.

I did find the actual manifest for your Antoni Urbanski. He is on Line 24 of this two-page manifest of the ship Nieuw Amsterdam, which is the same ship the naturalization document that Trish posted said he was on, sailing from Rotterdam on August 10, 1912 and arriving on August 19. It gives his father's name as Jacob Urbanski and his last residence as Michalin, all of which agrees with what you knew already. Here is the summary page: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJB8-2XQ

This is the first page of the manifest: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TC-X3K8-Q?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJJB8-2XQ&action=view

This is the second page of the manifest: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TC-X326-G?view=index&action=view

On the second page, column 29 provides the place of birth for Antoni. It agrees with Wieniec, which is the same place of birth that I see from the documents that Barb pulled together. The second page also shows where is was going, which was to his brother Wladyslaw Urbanski in Chicago.

I hope this is a useful addition to your collection of records.

Best regards,
Sophia

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BarbOslo — Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:24 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:24 am

That's what I managed until now. When I get some time I will look into this more. In some places I need more documents to confirm dates.
-Barb

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BarbOslo — Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:22 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:22 pm

MtUrczyk17 wrote:

Thank you so much. I search and search but have never been able to locate these documents on any website I have accessed. My application for citizenship is on hold until they can locate the actual marriage certificate and also check the records that my dziadzia was not "struck from the village records" when he emigrated.
They say I cannot get it through my babcia according to the law of 1920, but even if I can't, I feel so much more connected to my father's side of the family and have a deeper appreciation more than ever of my Polish ancestry.
How amazing to see all his siblings and all. My cousin and I are hoping to go to Poland next summer and walk in their footsteps. Then I am meeting my husband in Värmland, Sweden to let him meet up with some of his distant cousins.

Hi,
Antoni married Marianna on January 30, 1911 in the parish of Zbrachlin. I was unable to obtain this document. But this can be ordered in the Archives in Wloclawek.
Värmland is an amazing place. We had a cabin in Värmskog for 17 years. During the corona pandemic, we had to sell the house. The trip across the border to Sweden was impossible. Moving back to Norway took over a year. Hope to finish work on your Urbanczyk within a few hours.

-Barb

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MtUrczyk17 — Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:47 pm

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:47 pm

Thank you so much. I search and search but have never been able to locate these documents on any website I have accessed. My application for citizenship is on hold until they can locate the actual marriage certificate and also check the records that my dziadzia was not "struck from the village records" when he emigrated.
They say I cannot get it through my babcia according to the law of 1920, but even if I can't, I feel so much more connected to my father's side of the family and have a deeper appreciation more than ever of my Polish ancestry.
How amazing to see all his siblings and all. My cousin and I are hoping to go to Poland next summer and walk in their footsteps. Then I am meeting my husband in Värmland, Sweden to let him meet up with some of his distant cousins.

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BarbOslo — Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:56 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:56 am

Hello,
Here are Antoni's 7 siblings including Władysław (Walter) mentioned in your first post. Walter was the oldest. Surnames for the children are written Urbański or Urbańczyk. Spouses are also mentioned.
I will send the rest of the Urbanski family this evening.

-Barb

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents

MtUrczyk17 — Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:20 pm

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:20 pm

Have a good week at work. I appreciate all you have shared.

Re: Stannowo Poland 1880-1915 What Country

BarbOslo — Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:53 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:53 pm

Hello,
I started looking for Antoni's ancestors. I have found quite a few, but this week I am very busy at work. Will send you what I found on Friday or Saturday. Unfortunately in the church books from the area your ancestors come from the cause of death is not stated.

-Barb

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents/History

MtUrczyk17 — Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:47 am

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:47 am

I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a site to find out what was happening/history in the area of Poland that my grandparents came from. I recently found out that my babcia's parents both died in the same year and was wondering if there was a plague, massive crop failures, storms, or????? In addition to their deaths, so close together, my grandparents emigrated soon after. (I keep imaging the end scene from Fiddler on the Roof where groups were forced to leave).

As I find out more about my Polish heritage, the search becomes more personal and I wonder about all the individuals and their lives.

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents

MtUrczyk17 — Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:08 pm

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:08 pm

That is so awesome. What gold mine you are!

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BarbOslo — Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:48 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:48 pm

The birth record of Antoni Urbanski has been found.
-Barb

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BarbOslo — Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:29 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:29 am

Yes, send your email as a PM. I will reply shortly.

-Barb

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents

MtUrczyk17 — Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:23 am

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:23 am

Barb,

Yes, please pass on anything you have found. I can private message you my private email if you think that is best but this site is fine as well, perhaps? I have almost everything I can find on USA ancestry sites, but for whatever reason, hit a wall once I cross over to Polish sites which is why I have spend over $3000 over the last few years asking for assistance from Polish archivists, but they have not provided much. You have given me more in the last couple of days than anything they have provided.

Stannowo Poland and Grandparents

MtUrczyk17 — Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:04 am

Author: MtUrczyk17

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:04 am

Oh Barb!

This is like getting a hug from my babcia and all that came before. I have tears on my cheeks as I respond to this. I cannot wait to share this with my cousins and my children. You're an angel.

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BarbOslo — Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:01 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:01 am

Most of the documents are written in Russian, a few in Polish. I loaded what I found on my PC, so if you want I can send it to you.
-Barb

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BarbOslo — Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:29 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:29 am

Hi,
I managed to find this today. I don't know if this is new to you. Hope we can help you with Antoni as well.

-Barb