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Re: Katyn massacre

Sophia — Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:41 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:41 am

POLCAN wrote:

Thanks for genealogists who help and support this forum. My daughter is really interested in Polish Citizenship. She strongly believes , she deserve to be proud Polish as her great grandfather been torched and murdered by enemies. My question will be to professionals who can clarify the answer. The great-grandfather was poland citizen, his daughter was born in 1939, and he was killed in 1940. His daughter who is grandmother of my daughter in crucial 1951 was only 12 y.o. and ... the question is if she lost Polish citizenship or not if she continued to be in Kazakhstan territory. Thanks for sharing knowledge.

Good morning Polcan,

You are wise to say that you want a professional to answer your question, since it is a legal question. You probably realize that this forum we are using to talk to each other is provided by Polish Origins, which is a professional genealogy company. They talk a little bit about the details of Polish citizenship here:

https://polishorigins.com/blog/polish-citizenship/

Perhaps you have already read that? As you mentioned, 1951 is a crucial year. You need expert advice. You may begin by talking to someone from Polish Origins, but you also may need to consult a lawyer.

All best wishes to you and your daughter,
Sophia

Re: Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:02 pm

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:02 pm

Thanks for genealogists who help and support this forum. My daughter is really interested in Polish Citizenship. She strongly believes , she deserve to be proud Polish as her great grandfather been torched and murdered by enemies. My question will be to professionals who can clarify the answer. The great-grandfather was poland citizen, his daughter was born in 1939, and he was killed in 1940. His daughter who is grandmother of my daughter in crucial 1951 was only 12 y.o. and ... the question is if she lost Polish citizenship or not if she continued to be in Kazakhstan territory. Thanks for sharing knowledge.

Re: Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:57 pm

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:57 pm

they ask for official application with 3 types of posibilities:1personally in one othe branches in Poland, 2. with Notarion dedicated person. 3. with Consulate

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:58 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:58 am

I don't know, I've never contacted IPN. Again, send an email and see if they can help.

-Barb

Re: Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:48 am

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:48 am

What information and what is the process to request and receive information from IPN( institute pamyati narodnoj)?

Re: Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:46 am

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:46 am

Thanks a lot. I will try

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:17 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:17 pm

You can write to the State Archive of the Rivne region.
archive_rv@arch.gov.ua
There I found the birth certificate of Boleslaw. Possibly he married at the same place and asks how you can find a copy of his service in Brody.
-Barb

Re: Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:17 am

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 11:17 am

I am very interested and don't know how to receive information, legimate copy of Turowski years of service in Brody, and his marriage certificate. From which archive? I found out a lot of information is locating in IPN. What kind of request I should submit. After finding such sensitive history, my daughter is interested to find the way how she is eligible to apply for Polish citizenship and be proud of being part of Independant Poland today. Thanks a lot.

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:05 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:05 am

Hi Polcan
Do you need help finding this birth record? Or?

-Barb

Re: Katyn massacre

Sophia — Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:21 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:21 am

POLCAN wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Hello Sophia,
It seems that Aleksander and Anna also had a son Feliks. And in addition we have the birth and death date of Aleksander (father). He was born on July 17th, 1869 and died on October 26th, 1931. It is not certain who was Stefania.
See this link: http://www.nieobecni.com.pl/index.php?s=grob&id=166137. The pictures from the cemetery in Zdołbunów.

Regards,
-Barb

IT WAS DAUGHTER BORN IN 1913

Hi Polcan and Barb,
That image is difficult to read. Here is a link:
https://wolyn-metryki.pl/Wolyn/index.php?imie_szuk=Stefania&nazw_szuk=Turowska&miej_szuk=Zdo%B3bun%F3w&para_szuk=&rok_start_szuk=&rok_koniec_szuk=
Sophia

Re: Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:43 pm

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:43 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

IT WAS DAUGHTER BORN IN 1913

Re: Katyn

Sophia — Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:08 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:08 pm

POLCAN wrote:

I found my grandfather in this Polish book as well
https://web.archive.org/web/20160315184859/http://www.radaopwim.gov.pl/media/pliki/Ksiega_Cmentarna_Miednoje_Tom2.pdf
I'm looking for his marriage certificate and none I can find so far

Thank you for posting the link to this book. I looked at the entry for your grandfather. It was very good to be able to see his photograph. I do not know whether you will succeed to find other documents about him, but you have made very good progress so far. I continued looking through the book, just to see some of the other men who died and are buried in Miednoje. It is very humbling.

If you ever get the chance to go see it, there is a monument in Toronto to Katyn. It is in the Roncesvalles neighborhood.

All best wishes for a good weekend,
Sophia

Katyn

POLCAN — Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:29 pm

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:29 pm

I found my grandfather in this Polish book as well
https://web.archive.org/web/20160315184859/http://www.radaopwim.gov.pl/media/pliki/Ksiega_Cmentarna_Miednoje_Tom2.pdf
I'm looking for his marriage certificate and none I can find so far

Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:53 am

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:53 am

I couldn't find his name in this publication. Thank you for your supporting and help

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:21 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:21 am

Hi,
Did you find this information in this publication?
http://www.polska1918-89.pl/pdf/listy-proskrypcyjne-funkcjonariuszy-policji-panstwowej-sporzadzone-prz,6803.pdf

-Barb

Katyn massacre

POLCAN — Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:06 am

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:06 am

I found in the book that he serve as policeman-postrunkovyi in Brody, Ternopol since 1935-1939 until he become POW. What information about him I can get from archive. Service record, marriage or kids certificate. THANKS

katyn massacre

POLCAN — Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:28 pm

Author: POLCAN

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:28 pm

He serve as Police Officer, and may be could be found under Police records. in the record from the book killed in Kalinin, buried in Mednoe, wriiten :police officer from 1935 in Ternopol woevod, in 1939 serve as Postrunkovij in the city of Brody, Teernopol woevod. after september 1939 his fate is unfortunatly known.. However he appeared in the list of Khatyn and also in Mednoe.

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:58 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:58 pm

Boleslaw Turowski
Born: April 1st, 1910 in Zdołbunów
Baptized: May 2nd, 1910 in parish Tajkury
Father: Alexander Turowski
Mother: Anna née Baranowska
Godparents: Walerian Sosnowski and Franciszka Galendowska

-Barb

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:39 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:39 am

I answered your other questions in a PM.

Re: Katyn massacre

BarbOslo — Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:38 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:38 am

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi,
Do you need Boleslaw's birth record? Do you have this one?

-Barb

Here is Boleslaw's birth/baptism record. Could not load the whole page because the file was too large.

-Barb