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Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

teresamarusarz — Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:38 pm

Author: teresamarusarz

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:38 pm

Yes. I pmed u on ur first reply and gave u my email.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

johnmarz9 — Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:30 pm

Author: johnmarz9

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:30 pm

Are you wally and Rosie's daughter? Then I know who you are, just haven't seen you in years.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

johnmarz9 — Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:28 pm

Author: johnmarz9

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:28 pm

Edwin, Pinky, is my father. I don't think that I have ever met you, Teresa.

correction

teresamarusarz — Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:09 am

Author: teresamarusarz

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:09 am

My mom wants u to know... the. Aunt ladislawa... they called her laddie..... but she hated it and changed it to loretta as an adult. So it doesn't mean loretta at all.

ur husbands father

teresamarusarz — Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:52 am

Author: teresamarusarz

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:52 am

All the boys had girl childre...except for edwin. Is that ur husbands father? That's who the family called pinky. My uncle pinky. The boys in the family are edwin..stanley...frank and walter. The sisters are stella..loretta..mary and annastacia.

ladislawa marusarz

teresamarusarz — Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:46 am

Author: teresamarusarz

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:46 am

My grandparents are your grandparents. No they didn't change marusarz to murdock. Ladislawa is auntie loretta. My father was walter marusarz. Stella was my aunt too. Its john and annastacia marusarz. They were catholic. Uncle stan marusarz...the greatest skier in poland was best friends with pope john paul when they were young and now is a saint. They proclaimed our uncle a real saint in the catholic church.

First name Ladislawa

Cheri Vanden Berg — Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:00 pm

Author: Cheri Vanden Berg

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:00 pm

Bill Rushin wrote:

Yes the feminine form is Wladyslawa. But Wladyslaw is translated to Walter in US. Not all Polish-Americans used a translation of their name. Some might adopt a new name entirely to better fit into their surroundings. My uncle from Gron named his daughter Ladislawa when she was born in Pontiac Michigan in 1929. I just called her 85 yr young sister and she said her dad wanted a son after having 4 girls. One of his brothers was named Walter so he named her Ladislawa instead of Wladyslaw. They also called her Ladis and probably Americanized to Gladys. I wonder if this may be a goral gwara name possibly?

I became curious about the name Ladislawa, because I don't believe I ever ran across it before. Then someone at this site put it on a list of common Polish first names:
http://brooklyncentre.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Polish_Names
That surprised me. If it is a common name, then it probably isn't regional. I do agree with you Bill, that while some names might "translate", some people may choose a different name. My grandmother was named Aniela, and she apparently chose Nellie at first, and then settled with Angeline. I see at the site I mentioned, that Aniela is Anna in the U.S. It says that Ladislaw is Lottie, but we have examples to prove that isn't always the case. I also saw on a message board that someone's relative that was named Ladislaw was called Lillian.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Bill Rushin — Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:29 pm

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:29 pm

johnmarz9 wrote:

Jan marusarz and Anastasia Kowalczyk are my grandparents, but they were married at Sacred Heart church. He was related to Stanislaw , the Olympic skier. My cousins have done some investigating of the family tree, but I don't know how far back they have gotten to.

John, my great aunt Tekla Rusin lived across the street from them in 1922.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Bill Rushin — Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:14 pm

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:14 pm

Yes the feminine form is Wladyslawa. But Wladyslaw is translated to Walter in US. Not all Polish-Americans used a translation of their name. Some might adopt a new name entirely to better fit into their surroundings. My uncle from Gron named his daughter Ladislawa when she was born in Pontiac Michigan in 1929. I just called her 85 yr young sister and she said her dad wanted a son after having 4 girls. One of his brothers was named Walter so he named her Ladislawa instead of Wladyslaw. They also called her Ladis and probably Americanized to Gladys. I wonder if this may be a goral gwara name possibly?

Re: Ladislawa

Ute — Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:51 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:51 am

Louie wrote:

I have a book that contains the male names and diminutives: Ladislaus , Wladyslaw (Wladek). Wouldn't Ladislawa be the feminine form? I'm not sure this helps any.
louie

Thank you, Bill and Louie! I only found the Polish first name Władysława (feminine form of the Polish Władysław, meaning "rules with glory") at http://www.20000-names.com/female_polish_names.htm -- but no Ladislawa.
While Władysław was often changed to Walter in the US, I couldn’t find an English version of the name Władysława or Ladislawa, but here is an excerpt of an interesting post on this subject:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/PolandBorderSurnames/2001-04/0986154599
“However for what it's worth I have in my Polish family tree 4 unrelated “Wladyslaw's... all of whom's names were changed to Walter upon moving to the US. I also have two unrelated female Wladyslawa's in my tree and know of one in someone elses tree... all three of which changed their names to Blanch.”

Ladislawa Valeria Marusarz can probably only be identified by her date of birth.

Ladislawa

Louie — Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:42 pm

Author: Louie

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:42 pm

I have a book that contains the male names and diminutives: Ladislaus , Wladyslaw (Wladek). Wouldn't Ladislawa be the feminine form? I'm not sure this helps any.
louie

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Bill Rushin — Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:21 pm

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:21 pm

johnmarz9 wrote:

I don't know how the name Ladislawa translates to English, but that isn't any name of my aunts.

My cousin was named Ladislawa, we called her Gladys.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Ute — Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:43 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:43 am

johnmarz9 wrote:

I will have to have my cousin see this. I know my grandfather went by the name John, and as far back as I know, the lived at 43rd and Honore, but I don't know if they lived there when they were married. Also, I think he was from Zakopane. Yes. St cyril was at that address as I grew up in the old Back of the Yards neighborhood too. I don't know how the name Ladislawa translates to English, but that isn't any name of my aunts. Also, john was a carpenter in the stockyards. A lot of similarities here. I will look further into it.

I found another girl born to John Marusarz and Anna Kowalczyk: Stella Marusarz, born on November 11, 1919 in Chicago. Ladislawa Valeria, born on February 5, 1918, was the fifth child, Stella, born on November 11, 1919 was the sixth child born to this family. The family's residence was at 4438, Wood Street when Stella was born. I'm attaching the record for you.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Ute — Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:10 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:10 am

johnmarz9 wrote:

This is getting interesting! According to the Illinois, Northern District Naturalization Index, 1840-1950 Jan (John) Marusarz, born 13 Oct 1883, residence 4308, Honore Street, naturalized on May 31, 1923. Date of arrival in US was April 9, 1903. Names and addresses of witnesses are Andrzej Bryjak, 4335 South Marshfield Ave., and Joseph Walhosz (Walkosz?), 1622 W. 44th Street, Chicago.
I was excited when I saw the name Andrzej Bryjak in the naturalization record. I’ve been researching the Bryjak families in Dlugopole and nearby villages in the district of Nowy Targ for many years and have some information on Andrzej Bryjak, his wife Anna nee Waskiewicz, and their descendants. Andrzej (Andrew) was also a carpenter who worked at Wilson & Co. I’m not 100% sure yet if and how Andrzej Bryjak is related to my Bryjak ancestors, but obviously he was a friend of Jan (John) Marusarz (your grandfather?). I’m also familiar with the name Walkosz, I will try to find out more when I have more time at hand.
I’m attaching the naturalization record for you.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

johnmarz9 — Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:38 am

Author: johnmarz9

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:38 am

I will have to have my cousin see this. I know my grandfather went by the name John, and as far back as I know, the lived at 43rd and Honore, but I don't know if they lived there when they were married. Also, I think he was from Zakopane. Yes. St cyril was at that address as I grew up in the old Back of the Yards neighborhood too. I don't know how the name Ladislawa translates to English, but that isn't any name of my aunts. Also, john was a carpenter in the stockyards. A lot of similarities here. I will look further into it.

Jan Marusarz and Anastasia Kowalczyk

Ute — Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:15 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:15 am

johnmarz9 wrote:

Please have a look at the attached Certificate of Birth: A little girl, Ladislawa Valeria Marusarz was born on February 5, 1918 to John Charles Marusarz, and Anastasia Mary Kowalczyk. The family’s residence was at 4335, South Marshfield Ave, Chicago, at the time. If these are your grandparents, the information given in the record may be helpful: The father’s birthplace is indexed as Skrzypne, Poland, the mother’s birthplace as Odrowaz, Poland!

As to your grandparents' marriage: According to www.FamilySearch.org, Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920, they were married on August 06, 1909 at the office of Joseph F. Haas, County Clerk of the County of Cook and the Seat thereof, Chicago. Your grandfather is indexed as Jan Marusorz, your grandmother as Anastazia Kowalczyk. Church marriage was on August 08, 1909 by Thomas J. Bobek, pastor. The name of the church they were married at isn't given, it just says that it was at 5009, Hermitage Ave, Chicago. I may be wrong, but wasn’t that St. Cyril and Methodius Church at the time? Perhaps someone else more familiar with Chicago parishes in 1909 can help here.

Source: www.FamilySearch.org, Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920, Film Number: 1030462 Frame Number: Digital Film Number: 4271498 Image Number: 1156 Reference Number: 514 151.

I’m attaching the birth and marriage records for you and hope that helps you in research.
Ute

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

johnmarz9 — Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:04 pm

Author: johnmarz9

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:04 pm

Jan marusarz and Anastasia Kowalczyk are my grandparents, but they were married at Sacred Heart church. He was related to Stanislaw , the Olympic skier. My cousins have done some investigating of the family tree, but I don't know how far back they have gotten to.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Shellie — Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:08 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:08 pm

Hi TMurdock

Have you learned anything new since you posted your query here?

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

tmurdock6 — Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:57 pm

Author: tmurdock6

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:57 pm

Ute wrote:

tmurdock6 wrote:

I am doing research on my Husband's Father's family, His father's name was Jan Marusarz and he was born 28 Jun 1895 in Czarny Dunajec, he came to the United States in July of 1913, we do not know his parents names but know that he had at least one sister, Wiktoria Bartoszek and two brothers Andrzej and Josef.

A Jakob Marusarz traveled to the US on board of the SS 'President Grant' that left Hamburg on 6 Dec 1907 and arrived in New York on 20 Dec 1907. Jakob was 33 yrs old at the time, married, farm laborer, his place of birth was Skrzypne, his last residence abroad was with his wife Bronislawa Marusarz in Skrzypne, his destination in the US was an acq. Maciej Palka in Uniontown, PA. A Jan Marusarz and a Tekla Marusarz from the village Skrzypne also emigrated to the US in 1909 and 1912.

The following link takes you to a page at FamilySearch that has a number of Marusarz records of immigrants from villages in the district of Nowy Targ (Skrzypne, Ciche, Koscielisko, Maruszyna, Zakopane, Poronin – none from Czarny Dunajec though).
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=close&p=recordResults&surname=Marusarz

There is also a marriage licence of a 23 yrs old Jan Marusorz to Anastazia Kowalczyk, marriage licence issued 6 Aug 1909 in Chicago, church marriage on 8 Aug 1909 at St. Cyril and Methodius Church, 5009 S. Hermitage Ave, Chicago.

I realize that this is not in line with the information you have (e.g. Chicago instead of Uniontown, PA), but perhaps some of it will be helpful to you.

Thank you, I will look into this, I do know that the population of Uniontwon, PA increased dramatically around the turn of the century due to the work in the Mines both my husband's father and his Maternal Grandfather who also came from Poland worked in the mines there.

Re: Marusarz - Czarney Dunajec

Ute — Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:58 pm

Author: Ute

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:58 pm

tmurdock6 wrote: