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Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

wklucznik — Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:17 pm

Author: wklucznik

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:17 pm

Hey Pam,

I'm only picking up your message now...

If you are still looking, here are the details:

Bohdana Matsiuk

email: ukrgencenter@gmail.com
Ukrainian Genealogical Center
www.ukrgen.com
www.facebook.com/ukrgen

Best of luck with your search!

Regards,
Walter.

Records

pam56 — Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:42 am

Author: pam56

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:42 am

Hello Walter

Yes please would you mind sending Researchers name etc

Thank you
Pam

Update on Rowne search

wklucznik — Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:15 pm

Author: wklucznik

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:15 pm

Hello Kris

The search turned out to be incredibly successful. It took 4+ months but it returned documents proving my grandfather's residence in the city and I got certified documents proving it.

The documents found were:

1) Klucznik Ruwin (my grandfather) in the lists of residents of the city of Równe of Jewish nationality, 1935

2) Klucznik Jakób-Jankiel, in the list of members of Jewish community in Równe (father of Ruwin Klucznik)

3) Klucznik Ruwin in the list of voters to gmina administrations for 1932

Happy to share the researcher's details if you want them.

Kind regards,
Walter.

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

wklucznik — Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:51 pm

Author: wklucznik

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:51 pm

Hello Kris

I got stuck doing the search on my own but found someone who is helping me with the search directly in Rowne.

Their search will include the following: (I quote from their email correspondence with me)

Materials concerning Równe and Równe county are stored:
- in the State Archive of Rivne Region in Rivne (lists of voters to the Polish Sejm for 1928, 1930, 1935, lists of voters to the Równe City Council, different lists of residents of Równe, conscript lists, etc.;
- in the State Archive of Volyn Region in Lutsk (lists of voters for 1928, 1935; materials of Jewish religious gmina, etc.)

I made a small investment (USD400) to get the search going. In theory it will take up to 3-4 months. If you want, I can keep you posted to let you know if it was really worth it.

Best regards,
Walter.

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:44 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:44 pm

Hi Walter,

Have you had any luck in your searching?

Kris

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:08 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:08 pm

You can go to that link and look through the archives.

Here’s the link I mentioned:

https://uk.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2:%D0%94%D0%90%D0%A0%D0%9E/31/1/38

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

wklucznik — Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:11 pm

Author: wklucznik

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:11 pm

Thank you Kris! That's awesome!
As life has it I've been living in Mexico for the last few years for work reasons.
Yes, he was Jewish and so am I.
I did research Jewishgen.org. Lots of very useful info. While I found his wife (Ruchul, born in Kopyczynce) I seem unable to find him.
I'm afraid I can't really read either Russian or Polish (quite embarrassing given my surname!). Will try and give the link you sent me a go but I very much doubt I will succeed....
Where do I find the DARO/31/1/38 link?
I have spoken with someone that specializes in this kind of search for Mexican descendants of Polish Jews last week. Will see what he offers and if it sounds legit I will let you have hia details with pleasure.

Thanks!

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:26 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:26 pm

Hi Walter,

Some I’ve my ancestors move to Argentina and they still live there!

Assuming he was Jewish,
I would follow the link above if you think you could find the writing in old Russian handwriting.
If he was not Jewish, there’s other lists in there.
Arguable there’s more non-Jewish information floating around.
You can use the in-browser translation utility to help navigate it, though it won’t work once in the document.

You can use the Roots to Routes link below to transliterate the name. Though the spelling might not cover properly.
I got: Клучник

https://www.rtrfoundation.org/ocrsearch.php

Also, DARO/31/1/38 has a residents list from 1921 in polish. It’s a lot easier to go through.

And of course, there’s Jewishgen.org and jri-Poland you can search through.

You could also try to find a professional genealogical researcher. Let me know if you fund one, I may hire one as well. There are a lot of documents that haven’t been digitized yet.

I’ve heard the archives in Ukraine are not friendly.

Good luck, let me know if you find anything or need more help,

Kris

Rowne resident search

wklucznik — Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:09 pm

Author: wklucznik

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:09 pm

Hi there!
My name is Walter Klucznik, 50 years old from Buenos Aires Argentina.
My grandfather, Ruwin Klucznik was born in Rowne on February 7th 1909, to Jakov Klucznik and Rukhlya Kletzel.
I am trying to find proof of residence of my grandfather Ruwin in Rowne before 1937, when he emigrated to Argentina. I have looked everywhere but I am hitting a brick wall. My latest try was the Ucranian embassy at home, but my request does not seem to be taken seriously...
What would you suggest I do? Where could I find birth, residence, census, election documents, etc.
I have been reading this entire trail and find it fascinating.
Many thanks!

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:19 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:19 pm

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi,
This is fantastic news! Can you share this with us?

-Barb

Thanks Barb and Sophia!

It’s on the Ukraine Wikipedia. There’s a young Ukrainian gentleman Alex Krakovsky scanning Ukrainian records and putting them up.
They’re not translated nor indexed, so old school Russian handwriting. Lots of scrolling involved.

Here’s the Jewish residents list for 1881-1919 for Rovno. I can share more links too if you want!

The photo is not uploading as it’s too large. I’ll try figuring something out and will try to report back..

https://uk.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2:%D0%94%D0%90%D0%A0%D0%9E/165/1/37

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Sophia — Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:00 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:00 am

Iskou wrote:

I have very exciting news Sophia, Trust and Barb!

I started suspecting my great grandfather was actually from Rowne based on other documents listing a bunch of siblings having been born there.

I found my great, great grandfather and family living in Rowne in 1907 in the Ukrainian metric books written in Russian.

I don’t believe there’s an address in there, but I’m happy to have found it! It was like finding a needle in a haystack! I just wanted to share some good news with you all!

Thanks again for your help,

Kris

Hi Kris,
Thank you so much for sharing this good news! Your persistence really paid off.
All the best,
Sophia

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

BarbOslo — Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:25 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:25 am

Hi,
This is fantastic news! Can you share this with us?

-Barb

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:11 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:11 pm

I have very exciting news Sophia, Trust and Barb!

I started suspecting my great grandfather was actually from Rowne based on other documents listing a bunch of siblings having been born there.

I found my great, great grandfather and family living in Rowne in 1907 in the Ukrainian metric books written in Russian.

I don’t believe there’s an address in there, but I’m happy to have found it! It was like finding a needle in a haystack! I just wanted to share some good news with you all!

Thanks again for your help,

Kris

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:53 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:53 pm

It’s super cool to have found what we did!

Thank you very much for your help, my one great aunt who made it to the US actually released a book with her families correspondence, photos and a map of where they lived in Warsaw.

I imagine it’s pretty accurate.

Unfortunately, it mostly concentrates on her mothers side, so there’s no a lot of my own family history aside from some Small hints about my great granduncle.

Since I posted the originally message, I’m being lead to believe my great, great grandfather might have moved to Rovno much earlier than I originally expected, possibly in the 1880s, it appears that aside from my great grandfather, all the siblings I’ve found list Rovno as their birthplace.

I might have to hire someone to do some more extensive research if I want to find more info, if it even exists anymore

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Sophia — Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:41 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:41 pm

Iskou wrote:

That’s wonderful Sophia! Great find!

It looks like was renamed to 13 Dywizji on that map you shared.

I assume for the The 13th Border Infantry Division

https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Kresowa_Dywizja_Piechoty

It is now known as Symon Petliura Street

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symon_Petliura

If everything is correct, here’s where I think the current location is unless of course the street address changed. It’s not a very long street.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Arbvnsy76vNvGmqB8

Hi Kris,

I think you have it exactly right. Using your link for the current location I used the streetview feature to "walk" down the street and see how it looks. It is reassuring to see that you can now know where in the city they lived, and all because someone happened to include that address on their ship manifest. Who knew we could solve a genealogy problem simply by finding an old postcard?!

Did you want some help with addresses in Warsaw, as well?

Regarding your other question about where to find the lists of inhabitants, I looked in the online Polish archives and did not find any. I do not know where else to look.

Best regards,
Sophia

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:46 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:46 pm

Thanks Sophia and Trish!

I appreciate the explanation of the photo,

I’m curious where you look for the inhabitants list. I’m having trouble wrapping my head around this as the province has changed hands so many times in recent history.
Would the Polish archives have them? The Ukrainian archives?

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Iskou — Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:28 pm

Author: Iskou

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:28 pm

That’s wonderful Sophia! Great find!

It looks like was renamed to 13 Dywizji on that map you shared.

I assume for the The 13th Border Infantry Division

https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Kresowa_Dywizja_Piechoty

It is now known as Symon Petliura Street

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symon_Petliura

If everything is correct, here’s where I think the current location is unless of course the street address changed. It’s not a very long street.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Arbvnsy76vNvGmqB8

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Sophia — Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:28 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:28 am

And just to add, the website that has the postcard also had this comment: "Ulica Aptekarska w Równem, przemianowana później na 13. Dywizji."
So now you know, your Ulica Aptekarska is on the map as 13-ej Dywizji, an homage to the 13th Division.

I was unable, Kris, to find any list of inhabitants. They are most commonly available for the northwest of Poland, sometimes in German as Seelenliste and sometimes in Polish as Lista Dusz or Meldunkowe, but I am not seeing these for Galicia.

Sophia

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Trish — Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:57 am

Author: Trish

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:57 am

Sophia wrote:

Hi everyone,

A little gift for your morning: a postcard showing Ulica Aptekarska in Rowne, around 1910 to 1912.
https://fotopolska.eu/2140523,foto.html

Enjoy!
Sophia

Hi Sophia and Kris,

Sophia, what a wonderful present!

Regards,
Trish

Re: Resident records - Rowne and Warsaw

Sophia — Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:22 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:22 am

Hi everyone,

A little gift for your morning: a postcard showing Ulica Aptekarska in Rowne, around 1910 to 1912.
https://fotopolska.eu/2140523,foto.html

Enjoy!
Sophia