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Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

Ute — Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:11 pm

Author: Ute

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:11 pm

Cheri,
I was only familiar with the village Harklowa in the district of Nowy Targ, but there is another Harklowa in Jaslo county:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harklowa,_Podkarpackie_Voivodeship
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harklowa

Ute

Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

Cheri Vanden Berg — Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:18 am

Author: Cheri Vanden Berg

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:18 am

Here is Agnieska Belniak on a ship manifest arriving at Ellis Island in 1910:
http://tinyurl.com/a3r3s4g
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=101494050326
She is going to her cousin Franciszek Belniak in Chicago. It says that both her last residence and her birth villages was Harklowa. Note, there is more information in 1910 on the manifests than in 1904. There are two pages for Agnieska. (oops, sorry, now I see that Ute already had given you this information. Since you already checked with the village of Harklowa, I wonder if her birth place on the manifest was just also written as her last residence. Ute, I only found one Harklowa on Google maps?? I must be missing something.)

Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

Cheri Vanden Berg — Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:09 am

Author: Cheri Vanden Berg

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:09 am

Here is Wojciech Kielar on a ship manifest arriving at Ellis Island in 1904:
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=105305170085&MID=05490038800161308224&
His last residence was Labynkor. He was traveling with Anton Wilgosz, also last residence Labynkor, and they were both going to Rosalia Kielar's in Chicago.

Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

Ute — Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:25 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:25 am

Elzbieta Porteneuve wrote:

Ute wrote:

your great-grandfather Albertus Kielar was the son of Joannes (Jan) Kielar and Rozalia Moidien [?], your great-grandmother

Ute, Sobomj21,

I read it Możdżeń, and actually it seems to be quite popular lastname in Poland today - 2517 persons
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/mo%25C5%25BCd%25C5%25BCe%25C5%2584.html

Elzbieta

Thanks, Elzbieta, Możdżeń is probably the correct name. The dots above the name look like dots on top of the letter i, but the name 'Moidien' doesn't sound Polish at all.
Ute

Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:29 am

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:29 am

Ute wrote:

your great-grandfather Albertus Kielar was the son of Joannes (Jan) Kielar and Rozalia Moidien [?], your great-grandmother

Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

Ute — Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:30 am

Author: Ute

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:30 am

sobomj21 wrote:

I am looking for information about my great-grandparents: Wojciech (Albert George) Kielar, and Agnieska (Agnes) Belniak. I have information from family relatives that I know approx. DOB for Wojciech: 1888 and Agnieska: 1892. I know that they immigrated to America in 1904 and 1910 respectively. Four towns: Łancút, Harklowa, Labynkor andJasło have been found in family documents,but not sure if it is place of birth or just last place of known residencce before going to America. I've been in contact with the church in Harklowa and they do not have a registered name there. As far as I know the records from Jaslo and Lancut are being archieved and not sure when they will be finished. I am hoping this will be enough information to get the ball rolling on getting more information that what I already have. Thank you.

When I saw your post, I first thought you are referring to the village Harklowa in the district of Nowy Targ, a region where I have done some research in, but I assume it is the village Harklowa, gminie Skołyszyn, woj. podkarpackim, that you are referring to. You have probably seen the 17 ys old Agnieszka Belniak at the Ellis Island site who arrived in New York on Dec 16, 1910 on board of the SS 'The Rhein'. Her place of birth and last residence abroad are indexed as Harklowa, where she had lived with her father Jan Belniak before emigration to the US. She was headed to Chicago where she was going to join a cousin by the name Franciszek Belniak who lived at 1815, W. 45th Street at the time. I assume this is your great-grandmother Agnieska Belniak's passenger record. She married your great-grandfather Albert Kielar on July 7, 1912 at Sacred Heart Church, Chicago. According to the Sacred Heart church marriage record, your great-grandfather Albertus Kielar was the son of Joannes (Jan) Kielar and Rozalia Moidien [?], your great-grandmother Agnes Belniak was the daughter of Joannes (Jan) Belniak and Anna Jagielska. Witnesses were Franciskus Bartman and Victoria Gieron. In some Chicago church marriage records one can also find the place and date of baptism of bride and groom, which would have been helpful in your case, because it would have told you which parish they were baptized in and where you would most likely find their baptism records with further information. Unfortunately, this information is not given in the Sacred Heart church marriage records. I don't know how much research you have done so far in the US and which records and information you already have, but you'll find more here (e.g. your great-grandfather Albert Kielar's WWII Draft Registration; the birth of their daughter, Stephanie Kielar, b 10 Jan. 1918 in Summit (Wisconsin?), parents Albert Kielar, 32, and Agnes Belniak, 24 ys old, and so on):

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AAlbert~%20%2Bsurname%3AKielar~

I'm attaching your great-grandparents' church marriage record (Source: Illinois, Chicago, Catholic Church Records, 1833-1925, Sacred Heart, Honore Street, Chicago, Marriage 1910-1915.

Re: Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

sirdan — Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:51 am

Author: sirdan

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:51 am

I never heard that records fom Łańcut would have been archived. Records are kept for sure in parish, so you may send request there. I know that records are available from 1786. Kielar Surname is typical for Łańcut area so there is a chance of finding something.
As for Jasło, i found in Archive database here, that records from years 1890-1908 are kept in Sanok is state atchive, rest is in Jasło parish i guess.

Surnames: Kielar and Belniak

sobomj21 — Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:49 am

Author: sobomj21

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:49 am

I am looking for information about my great-grandparents: Wojciech (Albert George) Kielar, and Agnieska (Agnes) Belniak. I have information from family relatives that I know approx. DOB for Wojciech: 1888 and Agnieska: 1892. I know that they immigrated to America in 1904 and 1910 respectively. Four towns: Łancút, Harklowa, Labynkor andJasło have been found in family documents,but not sure if it is place of birth or just last place of known residencce before going to America. I've been in contact with the church in Harklowa and they do not have a registered name there. As far as I know the records from Jaslo and Lancut are being archieved and not sure when they will be finished. I am hoping this will be enough information to get the ball rolling on getting more information that what I already have. Thank you.