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Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Wed Apr 01, 2026 6:02 pm

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2026 6:02 pm

yes, I want to thank all of you for your help with this. I could never have found the information that you have provided me. I did reach out to a Genealogy research group in Ukraine. To date I haven't heard back from them, but when I do I will be sure to keep you all informed of any progress I make.

Again, Thank you very much for all of your help!!

Warm Regards,

Joe Kaminski

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

Trish — Tue Mar 31, 2026 11:15 am

Author: Trish

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 11:15 am

Sophia wrote:

Trish wrote:

Hi Joe, Sophia, and Barb,

I found Jakub Kaminski's 2nd wife, Jozefa Golumbiewska's ship manifest. Jozefa is on line #18. I need another set of eyes to read the record. Even the transcriber had a tough time transcribing the record.

I can see Jozefa is going to Shamokin, Pennsylvania. Please note the manifest was all one big record. I had to spilt the record for it to upload to the forum. I have the original record.

Thank you for your help!

Regards,
Trish

Name Josefa Golombiewska
Gender Female
Marital status Single
Birth Circa 1894
Arrival Apr 17 1913
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Age 19
Origin Russia
Ship Graf Waldersee
Nationality Russian
Departure Hamburg
Residence in country of origin Russia
Line 18
Relatives
Name Relation
Adam Pienkowsk Uncle
??? ??? Cousin

Here is the Hamburg manifest information.
Name Josefa Golombiewska
Gender weiblich (Female)
Ethnicity/Nationality Russland (Russian)
Marital Status ledig (Single)
Departure Age 19
Birth Date abt 1894
Residence Place Dyleno
Departure Date 02 Apr 1913 (2 Apr 1913)
Departure Place Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Arrival Place Halifax; Philadelphia
Occupation Landwirtschaftliche Tagelöhnerin
Ship Name Graf Waldersee
Shipping Clerk Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Shipping Line Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type Postdampfschiff
Ship Flag Deutschland
Accommodation Zwischendeck
Volume 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 257

Hi everyone,

Josefa Golombiewska's last residence was Baranowo in the Russian partition of Poland. Her nearest relative there was her uncle, Adam Pienkowski, living in Tylewo (the first letter of the town is hard to read). Her place of birth was also Tylewo. As you said, Trish, she planned to go to Shamokin, Pennsylvania. Her original answer to the person she was going to stay with was her brother-in-law Grzegorz (in English, Gregory) Orzoł if I am reading that correctly. This was then crossed out. The second name she gave seems to be Mrs. Grzegrz Orzoł who was in the country for 12 years. The town is still in Pennsylvania but begins with Br or Bu.

Does that help?
Sophia

Hi Sophia,

Thank you for being my eyes and transcribing the manifest. Least now we know the name of the town for Jozefa. Maybe Joe can find her birth record from that town.

Thanks again,
Trish

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

Sophia — Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:29 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:29 am

KaminskiJL wrote:

Hi Sophia,

So what is the Residence Place "Dyleno"?

Joe K.

Hi Joe,

The indexer for the record that Trish found called it Dyleno. I read it yesterday as Tylewo. Let's meet in the middle, then, this morning and go with Dylewo. I am attaching an image of a map where you can see a Dylewo north-northwest of Ostroleka, just up route 53. To the west of Dylewo is a Baranowo, which seems promising as the other town mentioned in this manifest. Interestingly, there is also a village named Orzoł nearby.

Sophia

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Mon Mar 30, 2026 7:27 pm

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 7:27 pm

Hi Sophia,

So what is the Residence Place "Dyleno"?

Joe K.

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

Sophia — Mon Mar 30, 2026 5:16 pm

Author: Sophia

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 5:16 pm

Trish wrote:

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

Trish — Mon Mar 30, 2026 3:19 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 3:19 pm

Hi Joe, Sophia, and Barb,

I found Jakub Kaminski's 2nd wife, Jozefa Golumbiewska's ship manifest. Jozefa is on line #18. I need another set of eyes to read the record. Even the transcriber had a tough time transcribing the record.

I can see Jozefa is going to Shamokin, Pennsylvania. Please note the manifest was all one big record. I had to spilt the record for it to upload to the forum. I have the original record.

Thank you for your help!

Regards,
Trish

Name Josefa Golombiewska
Gender Female
Marital status Single
Birth Circa 1894
Arrival Apr 17 1913
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Age 19
Origin Russia
Ship Graf Waldersee
Nationality Russian
Departure Hamburg
Residence in country of origin Russia
Line 18
Relatives
Name Relation
Adam Pienkowsk Uncle
??? ??? Cousin

Here is the Hamburg manifest information.
Name Josefa Golombiewska
Gender weiblich (Female)
Ethnicity/Nationality Russland (Russian)
Marital Status ledig (Single)
Departure Age 19
Birth Date abt 1894
Residence Place Dyleno
Departure Date 02 Apr 1913 (2 Apr 1913)
Departure Place Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Arrival Place Halifax; Philadelphia
Occupation Landwirtschaftliche Tagelöhnerin
Ship Name Graf Waldersee
Shipping Clerk Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Shipping Line Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type Postdampfschiff
Ship Flag Deutschland
Accommodation Zwischendeck
Volume 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 257

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:30 pm

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:30 pm

I envy all of you for being able to speak and read multiple languages. My father and his siblings were bi-lingual (out of necessity...because my grandparents could barely speak English, so almost all of the communication between them and their children was in Polish). When I was growing up, my father and his siblings would often sit around the kitchen table speaking Polish to each other. I assume that this was to make sure that no young ears overheard what they were saying.

My loss!

Joe K.

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:24 pm

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:24 pm

Barb,

Thank you!! The ancestors of my father's parents has always been a kind of black hole for me. Mostly because of timing. As you can see my father was Ewa's youngest child. She and Jacob both died by the time I was 3. My father died when I was 25, and I never got to talk with him about his parents or their families. I did get Ewa's birth record during my last go around with this forum. I had Marcel translate them for me and they are included in the family tree.
I am attaching a copy of an e-mail that I sent out last Friday. I did my best to translate (through the computer) my request for research into Ukrainian. I am waiting for a reply.

Warm Regards,

Joe K.

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

BarbOslo — Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:13 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:13 pm

Joe, check your email.
-Barb

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

BarbOslo — Fri Mar 27, 2026 3:11 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2026 3:11 am

Hi Joe,
I sent my email address as a PM.

-Barb

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:31 pm

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:31 pm

Barb,

You are right to not trust everything that AI comes up with. I find that the AI engine constantly goes off on tangents and I have to re-direct it back to the area that I want it to investigate. However, with a little knowledge of your subject this does not appear to be too difficult of a task. As I said before, even though the AI will not provide the cite-able documents for you, it will point you directly at them so you can go get them yourself. I was leary/skeptical at first, but when I was working on my mothers family tree (Clark) I was actually able to use the AI-generated document locations to go to the town clerk's office and look up the documents. Once found, it was an easy task to pay for copies of the documents (or sneak pictures of them with my phone). Once I had the document I could develop the correct citation.

Warm Regards,

Joe Kaminski

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:23 pm

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:23 pm

Hi Barb,

You will need to send me your e-mail address so I can have Ancestry send you an invitation. Family Tree Maker is not just a picture, it is a full-fledged genealogy program. The program automatically syncs with the Ancestry tree and also with the Family Search tree, although I've noticed that the Ancestry tree will add/delete people and media automatically, while the Family Search tree will not.

Anyway, send me your e-mail address and I will send you an invitation to my Kaminski family tree on Ancestry.

Warm Regards,

Joe Kaminski

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

BarbOslo — Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:56 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:56 am

Sophia wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Sophia,
I need your help to check Jakub’s manifest. Please take a look at the attached image. What are you able to read? Why is the surname written with an “a” at the end – as a feminine form of the surname Kaminski? Do you have any thoughts?
Mother or brother? I have not heard of the first name Anani before. If it is mother then the "a" ending could be correct. To compare letters you can see the entire manifest uploaded by Trish in this thread.

-Barb

Hi Barb,

No worries, I too was initially thinking that Anani was an error. However, the AI-generated info that Joe provided includes this:

Ананий Францевич Каминский (Ananii Frantsevich Kaminski)

On the image you provided from the manifest, it definitely says "brother." As for the "a" ending, that makes no sense. However, this is clearly a brother.

Sophia

Thank you, Sophia. I don’t trust everything AI comes up with, but I wanted to be 100 % sure that I have the correct information. Critical source evaluation is important!
Ananii Frantsevich Kaminski could be a match. That means his father was named Franz. Jakob’s father was also named Franz.

-Barb

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

BarbOslo — Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:53 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:53 am

Joe,
It would be nice to see what you've found so far. You can give me temporary access. The picture is also okay. Everything you have about Jakob, his siblings, parents that is confirmed.
-Barb

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:50 am

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:50 am

Barb,

Just an FYI. My Family Tree Maker software is automatically synced with my Ancestry tree, with my Family Tree Maker Tree being the master tree, so anything on my Family Tree Maker tree is also on my Ancestry tree.

Regards,

Joe Kaminski

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

KaminskiJL — Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:44 am

Author: KaminskiJL

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:44 am

Barb,

I have a tree on Ancestry and a somewhat more incomplete one on FamilySearch. I can access my family tree but I have no other access to Ancestry. If you would like, I can send you an invite so you can look at the tree. Let me know.
Also, I have a desktop software package called Family Tree Maker. If you happen to have that I can send you a copy of my tree.

Regards,

Joe Kaminski

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

Sophia — Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:12 am

Author: Sophia

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:12 am

BarbOslo wrote:

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

BarbOslo — Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:36 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:36 am

Sophia,
I need your help to check Jakub’s manifest. Please take a look at the attached image. What are you able to read? Why is the surname written with an “a” at the end – as a feminine form of the surname Kaminski? Do you have any thoughts?
Mother or brother? I have not heard of the first name Anani before. If it is mother then the "a" ending could be correct. To compare letters you can see the entire manifest uploaded by Trish in this thread.

-Barb

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

BarbOslo — Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:17 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:17 am

Trish,
Wait before sending it until Joe responds to my question. I would like to see exactly what he or someone else found about Jakub and his closest Polish/Ukrainian family.
-Barb

Re: Looking for my Grandfather's Relatives

Trish — Thu Mar 26, 2026 7:31 am

Author: Trish

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 7:31 am

BarbOslo wrote:

Joe, do you have an account on MyHeritage, Ancestry, or FamilySearch that I could take a look at?

-Barb

Hi Barb,
I’m helping Joe with the USA records. I’ll send what I can to show you what I’ve found so far.

Have a wonderful day!
Trish