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Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:45 am

Author: Trish

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:45 am

dshizak wrote:

Thanks Barb and Trish for your help. I have also tried Geneteka over the years, without finding any good leads. I was hoping the town Tosica (which I just recently saw on that document) might be a clue. I have not yet tried to search on Łosice. The earlier manifests that were posted (and removed) were not my family. I have not successfully found a manifest. The name is just too common, with too many similar variations to be sure of anything.

I know so much more now than I ever did when my father was alive. He always said his parents came from Poland. I assumed together. I later learned they met in the US. My grandmother had many siblings and with enough clues, I found that whole family in the Poznan Marriage Index and then the scanned films on Family Search and in the actual microfilms at the LDS churches; then Geneteka to verify when that came about. But the grandfather remains a mystery.

His children obtained birth records from PA in their adulthood , using other records to verify themselves as no birth records were recorded initially. 3 of those children all listed Warszawa as where their father was born. The fourth child died when he was 38 and did not register a birth certificate, as this was about 8-9 years before his older siblings did theirs.

Hi Dave,

I hope you receiived my email on how to obtain baptismal records for Rose, Alexander, and Stanley. I also hope you saw the information I sent on Stanley. If not, I can send it again. I would still try to see if there is a baptismal record for the children. My father was in the same situation. He was born in 1931 and there wasn't a birh record for him. I think it was becasue he was a home birth. He had to use his baptismal record to get social security. The other interesing thing was we found out his brother (my uncle) was baptized the same day as my father. My uncle was 6 years older than my father. We found that very interesting of the double baptisms.

I wish you luck with your research.

Regards,
Trish

Re: Tosica ?

dshizak — Sun Apr 12, 2026 11:29 am

Author: dshizak

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2026 11:29 am

Thanks Barb and Trish for your help. I have also tried Geneteka over the years, without finding any good leads. I was hoping the town Tosica (which I just recently saw on that document) might be a clue. I have not yet tried to search on Łosice. The earlier manifests that were posted (and removed) were not my family. I have not successfully found a manifest. The name is just too common, with too many similar variations to be sure of anything.

I know so much more now than I ever did when my father was alive. He always said his parents came from Poland. I assumed together. I later learned they met in the US. My grandmother had many siblings and with enough clues, I found that whole family in the Poznan Marriage Index and then the scanned films on Family Search and in the actual microfilms at the LDS churches; then Geneteka to verify when that came about. But the grandfather remains a mystery.

His children obtained birth records from PA in their adulthood , using other records to verify themselves as no birth records were recorded initially. 3 of those children all listed Warszawa as where their father was born. The fourth child died when he was 38 and did not register a birth certificate, as this was about 8-9 years before his older siblings did theirs.

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Sat Apr 04, 2026 4:08 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 4:08 pm

Trish, I just read your email about deleting certain entries. Dave, please disregard my entries.

-Barb

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Sat Apr 04, 2026 3:45 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 3:45 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Sat Apr 04, 2026 3:45 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 3:45 pm

Dear Dave and Barb,

I apologize for posting the wrong information. I went through my posts and deleted the information for Antoni who was born on February 25, 1881 along with his brother, Edmund. This is not the correct Antoni. I deleted the inccorect information so that we don't get confused.

On a brighter note, I think I found the 1910 census for Antoni. Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania would be correct since this is the county where Antoni and Pearl (Pelegia) were married. The census also states Antoni came into the USA in 1909.

Name Audy Suacik
[Andy Suacik]
[Andy Shizak]
[Andy Shizak]
Age in 1910 29
Birth Date 1881
[1881]
Birthplace Hungary
Home in 1910 North Huntingdon, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania, USA
Sheet Number 14a
Race White
Gender Male
Immigration Year 1909
Relation to Head of House Boarder
Marital Status Single
Father's Birthplace Hungary
Mother's Birthplace Hungary
Native Tongue Slovak
Occupation Laborer
Industry Car Shop
Employer, Employee or Other Wage Earner
Naturalization Status Alien
Able to read N
Able to Write N
Enumeration District Number 0174
Out of Work N
Number of Weeks Out of Work 0
Enumerated Year 1910
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Andrew Sebo 45 Head
Mary Sebo 50 Wife
George Lakatos 30 Boarder
John Warga 27 Boarder
Stephen Kovac 37 Boarder
Paul Utic 31 Boarder
Andy Utic 35 Boarder
John Benedik 50 Boarder
George Kozlok 23 Boarder
Audy Suacik 29 Boarder

Regards,
Trish

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:02 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:02 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Fri Apr 03, 2026 4:25 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 4:25 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:26 pm

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:26 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:49 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:49 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Trish

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:32 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:32 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Trish

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:25 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:25 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Trish

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Fri Apr 03, 2026 11:28 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 11:28 am

Dave also mentioned the Warszawa region as a possible place the family may have come from. In Mazowieckie, there is a place called Łosice. This is the closest I can find to the name “Tosica.”

-Barb

Re: Tosica ?

BarbOslo — Fri Apr 03, 2026 11:11 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 11:11 am

Hi Trish and Dave,
From the beginning and the first post to Dave: I am unable to trace the place. I have never heard of a place called Tosica, which is why I asked about the 1903 or 1909 manifest.
I have searched for an Antoni Czajkowski / Czaykowski / Czaikowski, born between 1879 and 1884, on Genetyka without any success. The exact date from the Alien Registration Card is not necessarily correct, as we have seen in several other cases.
If the first manifest posted by Trish is the correct one, I can see two places mentioned there: Bromberg (now Bydgoszcz) and Montwy (now Mątwy), which is now part of the city of Inowrocław. Both are located in Kujawsko-Pomorskie, about 40 km apart. I still cannot find any place called Tosica nearby.
In the Declaration for Naturalization, Edmund states that he is from Kruschwitz (now Kruszwica), a town located 17 km from Inowrocław.
The person mentioned in the 1910 manifest and the WWI Draft Card is the same (same occupation and date of birth).
It is difficult for me to believe that Andy Shizak and Antoni Czajkowski are the same person, but as mentioned earlier, we have seen many unexpected things before.
I will try to see if Aleksander / Julia / Jozefine Czajkowski can lead me further.
Trish, are you able to find Edmund’s manifest? It could confirm whether his place of origin is the same as Antoni’s.

-Barb

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:47 am

Author: Trish

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:47 am

Hi DAve,

I am waiting for others like Barb and Sophia to give their opinions on the subject. I don't want to be sending you down the wrong path.

Happy Easter!
Regards,
Trish

Re: Tosica ?

dshizak — Fri Apr 03, 2026 7:50 am

Author: dshizak

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 7:50 am

Here are a few other documents that show various spellings of his name.

What I would really like to obtain is the original town (Tosica ?) so that we would have a chance at the online archives.
I have also seen Warszawa listed, but I could not quickly find that document today. But, did he mean the city, or somewhere near there?

His WWI and WWII do not give clues as to where he was from.

One last clue- my father always told us that the name was pronounced like the composer Tchaikovsky. So doing searches for Anton/Antoni Czajkowski (allowing for spelling variations) is a bit like searching for a John Smith in the US. It is a very common name

Thanks for any help you could provide.

Re: Tosica ?

dshizak — Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:07 pm

Author: dshizak

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:07 pm

Thanks all for the responses. I do have other documents. His name became Andy Shizak, and under that name I have WW1 and WW2 cards, all the censuses, city directories and his death. He lived in Mt Braddock PA and then Star City/Morgantown WV.

Really stuck on the Polish origins. He used Antoni Cajkoski when he bought property and his will had both old and new names. His marraige license had Alexander as his father- spelled Caikoski then with mother as Julia (no maiden name) His SS application also had his father as Alexander. But here is mother is Josephine Basistsky.

Birth seems to be Aug 6 1881, but have seen Sept 6 1881 as well. To my knowledge, we have not located any brothers.

Unable to post additional documents right now, but wanted to provide more context.

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:17 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:17 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Trish

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Thu Apr 02, 2026 4:26 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2026 4:26 pm

Note: I deleted information since it was incorrect.

Trish

Re: Tosica ?

Trish — Thu Apr 02, 2026 4:11 pm

Author: Trish

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2026 4:11 pm

dshizak wrote:

Could someone help with locating this town? Or something that could sound like it?
Attached is my grandfather's Alien Registration Card from the WWII time frame. I just obtained this document and this is the first document I have found where he mentioned a town. A couple of his kids, my father included, listed Warszawa on a couple of their documents when asked about father's place of birth. So- perhaps in that general area?

Would love to be able to locate Antoni's birth record if I could locate this town.

thanks
Dave

Dave,

Do you have records from the USA on your grandfather such as his death record. census records, baptismal records of his children? All these records could have clues on them.

Was he always in West Virginia? I'm having trouble finding records on him.

Regards,
Trish

Re: Tosica ?

dshizak — Thu Apr 02, 2026 2:33 pm

Author: dshizak

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2026 2:33 pm

That manifest is likely. The destination seems to be Johnstown PA which is about 65 km from where he would be in 1912