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Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:00 am

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:00 am

cath wrote:

That Michaels' father is Antonius. His mother is Frances, daughter of Casimir and Agnes Orlowski. Antonius's job (condition) is "teator" but i do not know what that translates to.
It is the Greek Catholic Church. All the records are online at your LDS center at 5401 St Joe Road. If you think you will go, I will tell you how to navigate their website to get to the records.

Sending you an email, Cath.

-Dave

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:07 pm

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:07 pm

Dave,

Thank you so much for so much detailed information! Of course, these people may end up not being my relatives (but really, it's Orzechowicz, not Nowak! ????), but it is very exciting for a newbie like me to learn about my past, so I will remain optimistic.

Thank you both for all of your kind help, Cath and Dave!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dnowicki — Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:39 pm

Author: dnowicki

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:39 pm

dorzechowicz wrote:

dnowicki wrote:

cath wrote:

Dave & Cath,

If you don’t mind some unsolicited input…The status/condition/occupation of the father (Antoni) is tector, tectoris which has several meanings. He was a roofer or a plasterer or a tiler. The root of the word is tectum which means “roof” or “ceiling”, and is a substantive from the perfect participle of the verb tego, tegere, texi, tectum which means “to cover”. Hence the three occupations which all involve “covering”.

Hoping that you find the input useful,

Dave

Dave,

Thank you for the explanation as to the meaning of "tector". I'm very happy to learn anything and everything about my ancestors. But are you sure that it doesn't mean, "king", or "most high exalted one"?

Another Dave

Dave,

I suppose you could see tector as “most high exalted one” depending on th height of the building on which he was working and I can see the stuff about eagle feathers if some eagles flew over the roof (but they may have deposited more than feathers on him) but I have doubts about the lance.

...On to more serious stuff...Dave & Cath, The other info in the record includes the name of the midwife (Obstetrix) and the priest who did the baptism. Both entries are “ut supra” (“as above”) so their names appear in the first entry on the page. The status of the sponsors, commonly known as godparents, was tector/roofer, etc. for the male sponsor (Stefan) and uxor tectoris/wife of the roofer, etc. for the female sponsor (Anna).

When Cath wrote that the records are from the Greek Catholic Parish Church that does not mean the parish was ORTHODOX. It was CATHOLIC. Within the Catholic Church there are 24 Rites/Churches. The largest is the Latin/Roman Rite/Church but there are 23 more and those Churches are just as “Catholic” as the Roman/Latin Rite. The Greek Catholic Church in Jaryczów Nowy is part of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Rite/Church which has over 4.5 million members worldwide. Currently the parish is part of the Ukrainian Catholic Archeparchy of Lviv (Lwów in Polish) and the town is known as Novyi Yarychiv in Lviv Oblast, Ukraine. I couldn’t find the name of the patron saint of the parish but did find a picture (attached) of the church. The contemporary chuch building was consecrated in 1855 but was damaged by fire in 1872 and renovated in 1875. In 1881 the town of Jaryczów Nowy had a Roman/Latin Catholic parish church and a Greek/Ukrainian Catholic parish church with 636 Roman Catholic parishioners and 770 Greek Catholic parishioners. Although the town is currently in Ukraine, from the end of WWI until WWII it was part of the Second Polish Republic. From after the First Partition in 1772 until 1918 it was under Austrian rule ans was part of Galicia. Prior to 1772, it was part of Województwo Ruskie of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (Rzeczpostpolita Obojga Narodów).

Elżbieta has relatives from that general area and is much more familiar with researching in that area so perhaps she will be able to provide more details and clarifications, if she reads this post.

Anyway, I hope you find this background info useful.

Dave

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:20 pm

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:20 pm

dorzechowicz wrote:

Or even better, "Bearer of lance and wearer of eagle feathers"!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:12 pm

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:12 pm

dnowicki wrote:

cath wrote:

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:10 pm

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:10 pm

cath wrote:

Sure! You can also reach me at cathybelch@aol.com. The Polish towns you listed are about three hours west of Jaryczow Nowy - a pretty straight shot. I was told my grandfather was from Czarny Dunajec. I was shocked to find his records in Jaryczow Nowy. To find him in the Greek Catholic Church was also surprising. Also, the LDS Family History Center's computers are what give you access to their photos of the church records. These records do not exist in genealogy collections anywhere else. They are microfilmed photos you browse through on the LDS computer. The photos are unindexed as of now.

Cath,

Very interesting and surprising information! I don't think that your "Michael" and my "Michal" are the same person, but even in Poland, I would imagine that people with the surname "Orzechowicz" must be somehow related! Seeing the relationship to people that "far" east of the little group of villages wherein I have so far found everything pertaining to that side of my family was surprising, but when you pointed out to me that the records are from a Greek Orthodox parish, you could have knocked me over with a feather! I've neither heard nor known of any religion on both sides of my family other than Roman Catholic, so this puts an interesting spin on future research!

I can't remember if I indicated this here or not, but I do have an older cousin who has been to Poland a couple of times, and has confirmed that my grandfather was born and lived in Potakowka, while his future wife was in Wrocanka (the one right next door to Potakowka--I found out that there is another Wrocanka a few km away as well).

Anyway, I'll check in before I head off to the library. I have some time off coming up around Thanksgiving and Christmas, so it will hopefully be sooner than I at first thought. Thanks again for keeping in touch and for all of your help!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:08 am

Author: cath

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:08 am

Thank you, Dave! I was hoping someone would clarify that which I could not see! Much appreciated.

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dnowicki — Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:00 am

Author: dnowicki

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:00 am

cath wrote:

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:02 pm

Author: cath

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:02 pm

http://www.ipgs.us/iwonad/surnames/namesO/namesOr.html#Orz Is the website that led to my discovery. You will see the other towns where your ancestors may have lived.

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:49 pm

Author: cath

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:49 pm

Sure! You can also reach me at cathybelch@aol.com. The Polish towns you listed are about three hours west of Jaryczow Nowy - a pretty straight shot. I was told my grandfather was from Czarny Dunajec. I was shocked to find his records in Jaryczow Nowy. To find him in the Greek Catholic Church was also surprising. Also, the LDS Family History Center's computers are what give you access to their photos of the church records. These records do not exist in genealogy collections anywhere else. They are microfilmed photos you browse through on the LDS computer. The photos are unindexed as of now.

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:05 pm

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:05 pm

Cath,
I will probably have to wait for a weekend when the weather is bad, which should not be long in coming around here. Also, I understand that the (Fort Wayne) Allen County Public Library has an excellent genealogy collection. I will be visiting them both for sure, and I will contact you before I do. Will replying to this thread do for that? Thank you so much again for putting up with all of my questions!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:42 pm

Author: cath

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:42 pm

That Michaels' father is Antonius. His mother is Frances, daughter of Casimir and Agnes Orlowski. Antonius's job (condition) is "teator" but i do not know what that translates to.
It is the Greek Catholic Church. All the records are online at your LDS center at 5401 St Joe Road. If you think you will go, I will tell you how to navigate their website to get to the records.

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:09 pm

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:09 pm

Thanks, Cath. Thanks to the internet, I was able to translate much of the Latin, and zooming in let me decipher much of the handwritten record. But do you know all of the information within the Parentes Nomen and Conditio? Also, do you have any idea as to the name of the parish and where it is/was located? Thanks--having some fun now!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:12 am

Author: cath

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:12 am

This is the Michael I have...

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:28 am

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:28 am

Forgot to add that my relatives named Sanocki are: my Busi Katarzyna, and her siblings Jozef, Ludwik, Ludwika (how original!). Her father's name was Wojciech, and his father's name, I think, was Kazimierz.

I am listening to conversational Polish language CDs during my commute to and from work, and my sister is hopefully learning Slovak for when we also visit my maternal ancestors. Please don't tell me that I also need to learn Ukrainian!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:17 am

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:17 am

cath wrote:

You are welcome! If you are near an LDS family history center, you can view all the Jaryczow Nowy records on their computer for free! Also, Sanocki is in Jaryczow Nowy! I have 14 Sanockis connected to my family. I have three Orzechowicz, Antonius, Marianna, 1799, Michael, 1838!

Thanks again, Cath! Looking at my tree, I do have a Michał:

Birth 1845 • Krużlowa, Nowy Sącz, Kraków, Poland
Death 5 NOV 1895 • Krużlowa, Nowy Sącz, Kraków, Poland

If this is indeed the same person (and I would definitely trust your data before mine), we are related!!! (He is my great-grandfather).

I have two people listed as wives of his: Marya Muzyka, born in 1846; I have her as being my great-grandmother. The dates are fuzzy, but I think that Michał remarried to Maryann Faber. If you have any corrections, I would be most happy to see them, cousin!

Dave

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:43 am

Author: cath

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:43 am

You are welcome! If you are near an LDS family history center, you can view all the Jaryczow Nowy records on their computer for free! Also, Sanocki is in Jaryczow Nowy! I have 14 Sanockis connected to my family. I have three Orzechowicz, Antonius, Marianna, 1799, Michael, 1838!

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

dorzechowicz — Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:21 am

Author: dorzechowicz

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:21 am

cath wrote:

According to http://www.ipgs.us/iwonad/surnames/placesj.html

Here are SURNAMES for Jaryczow, Lwow - Galicia

Andrejczuk Andres Barski Bekierski Bernacki Bilik Binkowski Brandstatter Cepuch Czarnobil Czerkowski Czerwinski Dejneka Dobosz Druszkiewicz Dyrdzinski Ewiczynski Frankiewicz Galaj Gawronski Gebarowicz Gerlach Ginda Glinkowski Gorczynski Gorycki Gruntkowski Gruszka Harlos Hegedisz Horbal Horodecki Idzik Ilewicz Izycki Jajko Jasiewicz Junik Kadziola Kalitynski Karszniewicz Kazmirowicz Kokodynski Konarski Korolik Kot Kranc Kregel Luczkiewicz Lukaszynski Manestyrski Mazepa Melcher Milczanowski Morozowski Mudry Nakoneczny Naszczak Nerymski Norynski Nowosielski Nycz Oblicki Olekcinski orlowski Orzechowicz Pakuszewski Pieciorak Poczaj Podolanski Praiss Przewoda Pszon Pszoniak Puszka Rajca Remiszewski Rogulski Rozumkiewicz Sahanek Salamanczuk Senica Skalecki Skotniany Skrzypecki Sobolewski Sokalski Stebski Sternal Stoll Stopczynski Stupinski Sulkowski Swaryszewski Szandala Szczepanski Szczygielski Szemlej Szponarski Taras Tarasiewicz Tarrapata Tiahnybok Trusz Walkiewicz Wegrzynowicz Werynski Wronski Wybranowski Zaczkiewicz Zapytowski Zawadowski Ziegler Zulawa

I know it's been a long time, but THANK YOU for posting this! It's nice to search for my surname (Orzechowicz) and get a hit. I will start looking at this town now, in addition to Kołaczyce, where my cousin states we also have some relatives.

Is it still possible search for surnames in Galicia? I am at a bottleneck with "Hanba" and "Sanocki/Sanocka". Thank you again!

Dave Orzechowicz
Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

Re: Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Fri May 11, 2012 8:14 am

Author: cath

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:14 am

According to http://www.ipgs.us/iwonad/surnames/placesj.html

Here are SURNAMES for Jaryczow, Lwow - Galicia

Andrejczuk Andres Barski Bekierski Bernacki Bilik Binkowski Brandstatter Cepuch Czarnobil Czerkowski Czerwinski Dejneka Dobosz Druszkiewicz Dyrdzinski Ewiczynski Frankiewicz Galaj Gawronski Gebarowicz Gerlach Ginda Glinkowski Gorczynski Gorycki Gruntkowski Gruszka Harlos Hegedisz Horbal Horodecki Idzik Ilewicz Izycki Jajko Jasiewicz Junik Kadziola Kalitynski Karszniewicz Kazmirowicz Kokodynski Konarski Korolik Kot Kranc Kregel Luczkiewicz Lukaszynski Manestyrski Mazepa Melcher Milczanowski Morozowski Mudry Nakoneczny Naszczak Nerymski Norynski Nowosielski Nycz Oblicki Olekcinski orlowski Orzechowicz Pakuszewski Pieciorak Poczaj Podolanski Praiss Przewoda Pszon Pszoniak Puszka Rajca Remiszewski Rogulski Rozumkiewicz Sahanek Salamanczuk Senica Skalecki Skotniany Skrzypecki Sobolewski Sokalski Stebski Sternal Stoll Stopczynski Stupinski Sulkowski Swaryszewski Szandala Szczepanski Szczygielski Szemlej Szponarski Taras Tarasiewicz Tarrapata Tiahnybok Trusz Walkiewicz Wegrzynowicz Werynski Wronski Wybranowski Zaczkiewicz Zapytowski Zawadowski Ziegler Zulawa

Jaryczow Nowy

cath — Wed May 09, 2012 8:22 am

Author: cath

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:22 am

Films of church records for Jaryczow Nowy will be here soon. I am happy to look for your names. Let me know!