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Re: Tuseli/ Suseli Russia? Help understanding document

yansandp — Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:40 am

Author: yansandp

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:40 am

Thanks Barb for the help!

In this particular instance Stanley in US records was born 1892-1894 so would have been born after this woman. The US arrival record seems to state his father still lives where he was born.

Is there information of how complete/ accurate these indexes are? I'm used to US records being a bit inaccurate because of translation errors and time from events. I did try to go through that linked database more through different regions and didn't see anything else witch these parents.

Re: Tuseli/ Suseli Russia? Help understanding document

BarbOslo — Sun May 14, 2023 4:10 am

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 4:10 am

yansandp wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions! Very helpful, thanks. I was curious about the Fathers "address" on the document which did look like it could be referencing Łomża.

It appears Zuzela could be a match. His name was Stanley and according to another record I have his Parents were John (Jan) and Frances (Franciszka) Simanski (Szymańska). This matches a record there except is says Stanisława Kędzierska 1890, which is female and 3 years younger than my records say? I can't read the scanned document well enough to compare or find a birthdate though.

Hello,
Stanisława could be the older sister of your relative Stanley (Polish Stanisław). She was born in Zuzela on May 15, 1890 at 11 o'clock in the evening.
Parents:
-father - Jan Kendzierski* 27 years old (estimated year of birth 1863)
-mother - Franciszka Szymańska 23 years old (estimated year of birth 1867)

One more person named Kendzierski is mentioned in this document:
- godmother: Franciszka Kendzierska

The most likely that Stanisław (Stanley) was not born in Zuzela, but that family moved there later, and only his sister Stanisława was born there. The parish of Zuzela is indexed (1657-1922), and it appears that no more children of the Kendzierski- Szymańska couple were born there.

*Surname Kendzierski can also be written Kędzierski.

I hope this helps,
-Barb

Re: Tuseli/ Suseli Russia? Help understanding document

yansandp — Sat May 13, 2023 4:33 pm

Author: yansandp

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 4:33 pm

Thanks for the suggestions! Very helpful, thanks. I was curious about the Fathers "address" on the document which did look like it could be referencing Łomża.

It appears Zuzela could be a match. His name was Stanley and according to another record I have his Parents were John (Jan) and Frances (Franciszka) Simanski (Szymańska). This matches a record there except is says Stanisława Kędzierska 1890, which is female and 3 years younger than my records say? I can't read the scanned document well enough to compare or find a birthdate though.

Re: Tuseli/ Suseli Russia? Help understanding document

mm_88 — Wed May 10, 2023 11:13 am

Author: mm_88

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 11:13 am

Hello,

Just a guess, but "Suseli" could be also Zuzela, about 60 km from Łomża https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuzela

I think that father's name is Jan Kędzierski (Kendzersky). Here you can find some records for this surname in Zuzela https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=B&w=07mz&rid=3613&search_lastname=k%C4%99dzierski&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=

Re: Tuseli/ Suseli Russia? Help understanding document

TedMack — Tue May 09, 2023 6:01 am

Author: TedMack

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 6:01 am

yansandp wrote:

Hello,

After many years I finally found a document writing my Polish relatives birthplace other than "Poland". However, I'm struggling to decipher where this actually is. Searching the transribed town as Tuseli, or Suseli doesn't seem to get any hints, and I haven't had much luck altering spelling without more knowledge.

He was born in 1893, and his immigration record in the US states he is Polish, born in Russia. With this I'm assuming the town would be around eastern Poland today?

Any help would be much appreciated.

G'day

As a guess, based on the location of his father on this document could it be "Truszki is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Piątnica, within Łomża County, Podlaskie Voivodeship, in north-eastern Poland." See map below.

It's only a guess based on what is written in the document.

Cheers

Tuseli/ Suseli Russia? Help understanding document

yansandp — Tue May 09, 2023 2:23 am

Author: yansandp

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 2:23 am

Hello,

After many years I finally found a document writing my Polish relatives birthplace other than "Poland". However, I'm struggling to decipher where this actually is. Searching the transribed town as Tuseli, or Suseli doesn't seem to get any hints, and I haven't had much luck altering spelling without more knowledge.

He was born in 1893, and his immigration record in the US states he is Polish, born in Russia. With this I'm assuming the town would be around eastern Poland today?

Any help would be much appreciated.