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Kida

Falloutshrty6 — Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:05 am

Author: Falloutshrty6

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:05 am

Yea, you might be right, the Nellie Kida I'm refering to lived in Mass. I just was just thinking, Kida is not a very common name, at least in US, and another Nellie Kida comes to America around the same time as my great grandmother comes, and they both have same names, and both from poland, as far as I know, but the world is a big place, always that chance that someone has same name,etc.. Well thank you, who knows maybe our families are related but not as close relation as what I thought. Have a nice veterans day. And if you served, thank for your serve and to all our family that has served, thank you and bless you.

Correction

samiam1955 — Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:21 pm

Author: samiam1955

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:21 pm

Correction - one of her GREAT grandchildren ...

Re: Kida

samiam1955 — Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:20 pm

Author: samiam1955

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:20 pm

Falloutshrty6 wrote:

Omg thats my family! Are you part of the kida family, nellie kida was my great grandmother, her son edwin kida my grandfather had a daughter elizabeth kida(pelley,now) i might be able to find something, relating to this, i have wondered myself, the origins of my mothers maiden name,.. its so neat that i look up the name and on a form the question on my great grandma,right there.

We must be talking about two different Nellie Kidas. The one I know is Anelia (Nellie) Kida, b. abt. 1888. She immigrated to Lewiston, Maine, and had two husbands. The first was Marcin Cholewa, with whom she had five children from 1909 to 1914. The second was Thomas Korytko, with whom she had four children from 1915 to 1928. One of her grandchildren by Thomas is a good friend of mine.

What more can you tell me about your Kida ancestors?

Kida

Falloutshrty6 — Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:34 am

Author: Falloutshrty6

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:34 am

Omg thats my family! Are you part of the kida family, nellie kida was my great grandmother, her son edwin kida my grandfather had a daughter elizabeth kida(pelley,now) i might be able to find something, relating to this, i have wondered myself, the origins of my mothers maiden name,.. its so neat that i look up the name and on a form the question on my great grandma,right there.

Re: Family name is Kida here is the info I have

tedrussell — Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:45 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:45 am

I found Kolbuszowa Górna, about 20 mi (32 km) WSW of the towns (Kamień, Wólka Łętowska, and Łętownia) where the Kidas I've been researching come from.

I believe Górna means 'upper'. So this location is 'Upper Kolbuszowa'. If you look on the map, this makes sense, as it is upstream from the town of Kolbuszowa.

You can find it here:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kolbuszowa+G%C3%B3rna,+Poland/@50.3479081,21.8870708,10.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x473d1940d364f1ff:0xebb9db95ba144beb!8m2!3d50.2231035!4d21.7985058?hl=en

Family name is Kida here is the info I have

Kida1 — Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:19 pm

Author: Kida1

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:19 pm

The following is for my Grand Father John P. Kida.
Borned and lived in Gurno, Kolbuszowa, Poland
He married Zofia N. Wos
Entered the USA just prior to WWI I was told.
They were together Naturalized on Sept 21, 1927.

Keep in mind the Immigration service in those days had quotas.
The family story I was told, was my Grand Father moved to Austria and for a period worked there to
present the idea him and his wife were coming from there.

So Widen your search to Austrian towns also.
Because it is how his Ellis Island Log entry showed him.

BTW: the oldest record I could find of the KIDA name is not Polish, but Japanese.

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

Anonymous — Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:54 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:54 am

Ted,

Cholewiana Gora and Pogorzalka are in Jezewo:
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/59/1480/0/?q=jezowe&wynik=2&rpp=15&page=1#tabJednostki

To search a locality you just type the name of the place here:
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/
then mark "only with scans"
Tip: sometimes, as in this case, no results will appear. Either the place has no records scanned so far, or the parish was not in the village. By the way, I could not find the parish for Nowy Nart.

Gilberto

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:05 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:05 am

Magroski49 wrote:

tedrussell wrote:

Gilberto, I think you've solved it! Thanks again to you and sirdan.

Ted

Ted,

Wolka Letowska 1890 birth records in parish Letownia:
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/59/1236/0/-/1?q=letownia+XSKANro:t&wynik=1&rpp=15&page=1#tabSkany

Lowisko 1889 on birth records in parish Lowisko:
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/59/1481/0/-/1?q=lowisko+XSKANro:t&wynik=2&rpp=15&page=1#tabSkany

Kamien:
http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/59/1480/0/-/1?q=kamien+XSKANro:t+XARCHro:59&wynik=2&rpp=15&page=1#tabSkany
Kamien, now I see, is written in the manifest, on the right side of the word "Laskowska"

all in Latin, columnar format.

Nellie declared she had never been before to the USA, which makes sense since she was just seventeen. However, Nellie is not a Polish name. Maybe you will have to look for her as Aniela? PetroNELLA?

Gilberto

Gilberto, I have another friend who has ancestors from three towns to the west of these, namely Nowy Nart, Cholewiana Gora, and Pogorzalka. Attached is a map. I tried to find records for these towns on the szukajwarchiwach.pl site, but I can't figure out how to do a search by locality. Can you help?

Back to the search for Nellie Kida - I found another record that confirms her name was Aniela, as you suspected!

Thank you,

Ted

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:06 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:06 am

I found two couples with Sophia as the mother. One father is named Petrus (Petr in Polish?) and the other is Alexander. Neither one sounds at all like Sebastian. I searched up to the end of 1894.

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

Anonymous — Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:33 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:33 am

I think is the same. Could he have two names? I vaguely remember to have seen parents Jozef and Zofia.

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:08 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:08 am

The parents are stated as Sebastian and Zophia. Of course, Zophia is Sophia. Would Sebastian have a different Latin equivalent?

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

Anonymous — Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:09 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:09 am

tedrussell wrote:

That's what I figured. Thank you for looking. I do have the names of Nellie's parents from another source, but they do not correspond to the names of the parents for any of the many births I found in the Records.

Nellie's parents' names shoud be in Polish, but in those Kamien, Lowisko and Letownia records are in Latin. Did you look for their equivalent names?

Gilberto

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:55 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:55 am

That's what I figured. Thank you for looking. I do have the names of Nellie's parents from another source, but they do not correspond to the names of the parents for any of the many births I found in the Records.

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

Anonymous — Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:43 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:43 am

tedrussell wrote:

Gilberto, the records you provided start in 1889 or 1890. Are there any records available from earlier years? I have found many Kidas in the Lowisko archives, but Nellie was born a year or two earlier.

Ted,

I could not find any, even in Diocese Archives. I am afraid they must be destroyed during the wars. Or records for earlier years where kept somewhere else, I don't know.

Gilberto

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:27 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:27 am

Gilberto, the records you provided start in 1889 or 1890. Are there any records available from earlier years? I have found many Kidas in the Lowisko archives, but Nellie was born a year or two earlier.

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:05 pm

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:05 pm

Gilberto, thank you for the link to the church archives. I'm quite familiar with these documents, having spent many hours searching through similar archives from Moravia, on the following site: http://actapublica.eu/

From this work, I know the key to quickly finding a particular record is finding an index. In the Moravian archives, the volumes were nicely organized by volume so that you could always find the index on the last few pages of a volume.

Nellie Kida reported her age as 17 on 4/13/1906 (excuse me for using the American standard for dates). This makes her date of birth between 4/14/1888 and 4/13/1889. However, her marriage record from 8/21/1920 says she was 32, and the US Census on 4/1/1930 says she was 42. Combining these two places her date of birth between 8/22/1887 and 4/1/1888, which is earlier than the period determined from the age on the passenger list.

I'm going to assume she had just turned 18 when she came on the ship, but reported her age as 17, and search through the latter date period in 1887-8. Then I'll continue the search into 1889.

Ted

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

Anonymous — Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:25 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:25 am

tedrussell wrote:

One more question: Where on the stevenmorse.org site did you find more Kidas coming from Wulka Letowska? I'm just starting to learn about all of what is on this fantastic site.

Ted,

I have narrowed the search by marking the ethnicity boxes: austrian, galician, polish.
Some Kida names will lista Wulka, Wolka Cestowska (misspelled), etc.

Gilberto

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

Anonymous — Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:23 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:23 am

tedrussell wrote:

Gilberto, I think you've solved it! Thanks again to you and sirdan.

Ted

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:54 am

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:54 am

One more question: Where on the stevenmorse.org site did you find more Kidas coming from Wulka Letowska? I'm just starting to learn about all of what is on this fantastic site.

Re: Decipher town name for Kida ancestor - 1906 passenger list

tedrussell — Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:29 pm

Author: tedrussell

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:29 pm

Gilberto, I think you've solved it! Thanks again to you and sirdan.

Ted