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Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Shellie — Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:36 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:36 pm

Msgr. Vitus Jozef Masnicki
Founding Pastor, St. Adalbert’s, Elizabeth, NJ
Born on June 16, 1870 in Zaluczne, Odrowaz Province, Poland
Elementary school in Nowy Targ
High school in Krakow
Emigrated to America in 1892
Completed philosophy and theology studies at Immaculate Conception Seminary which was then located on the campus of Seton Hall University in South Orange, New Jersey.
Ordained on February 29, 1896 at St. Patrick’s Pro-Cathedral
First assignment St. Stanislaus Parish, Belmont Ave, Newark
Founding Pastor of St Adalbert’s, Appointed Pastor 1905
Named Monsignor September 1929
Named Protonotary Apostolic June 1946 at the time of his Golden Anniversary of Priesthood
Died on July 29, 1956 as Pastor of St. Adalbert’s

http://www.stadalbert.us/stadalbert/history/pastors/

There are several ship manifests for Vitus Masnicki, he traveled a lot with his cousin Jozefa who was the same age and also from Zaluczne (as noted on the manifests)

I have not seen Masnicki, but have seen Masnica associated with Zaluczne…… same surname?

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Shellie — Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:56 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:56 pm

This is the link to the National Archives in Poland scan of 1846 kadastral map for Zaluczne

http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/29/280/0/13.1/2788/str/1/1/100#tabSkany

These maps are big, and are broken down into several large pages. The most important thing to know about these maps is that the number in the yellow square does NOT match up with the house number in the church books. To match the house number with the inhabitants, you need the “operat” with the names of the villagers, and the location of their homes and land parcels.

The Zaluczne map has 5 main pieces that fit together like a puzzle. I labeled each piece so I could keep track of them - The ZZ labels are NOT from the archive. It is pretty easy to figure out where each piece goes, but fitting them together helps with orientation.

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

taraba — Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:26 pm

Author: taraba

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:26 pm

Thanks. I did find that one and was tracking that person in a large Rafacz tree, but I haven't found any other info that corresponds to that person except that passenger list even using Lawrence as the first name. I don't know if he died or went back home or just came for a visit.

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Cheri Vanden Berg — Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:01 pm

Author: Cheri Vanden Berg

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:01 pm

Hi taraba,
There is a Wawrzyniec Rafacz that arrived in NY on 16 Mar 1901. He was 36, so born about 1865. He was going to his brother's in Pennsylvania. This could be your Mary's father. He was from Pieniążkowice, which is a village just a little over two miles from Odrowaz. I would guess that the villages of Pieniążkowice and Dzial did not have their own churches when your great grandparents were baptized, but I don't have time to confirm that right now.
Cheri

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

taraba — Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:58 pm

Author: taraba

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:58 pm

I'm pretty sure great-grandmother Mary Rafacz was from either Zaluczne or Odrowaz, but I haven't figured where yet. The church records for her marriage list her baptism in Odrowaz on Feb. 5, 1889. Her parents were Wawrzyniec and Josepha. Those records also list the same town for my great-grandfather and I'm pretty sure his family was living in Dzial at that time. Maybe it's because these towns are covered by a parish in Odrowaz. I see some passenger lists with Rafacz family members from Zaluczne traveling to Gallitzin, PA, where she was living when she was married. I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I suspect these were some degree of cousins. I haven't found her in a passenger list yet though. I'm not aware of any siblings yet.

Re: Zaluczne students from 1942-1947

Shellie — Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:19 am

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:19 am

sb wrote:

Hi I am looking to get in touch with my classmates who attend the Zaluczne school from 1942-1947...My surname is Stanislawa Babicz...

Hi Stanislawa - I will forward your information to any cousins from Zaluczne. Let us know if you connect with anyone!
Shellie

Zaluczne students from 1942-1947

sb — Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:00 am

Author: sb

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:00 am

Hi I am looking to get in touch with my classmates who attend the Zaluczne school from 1942-1947...My surname is Stanislawa Babicz...

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:32 pm

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:32 pm

Maybe I got that wrong? I gues they would also be me great great grandparents?
Dave

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:28 pm

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:28 pm

Hi little cousin Cheri,
Now I know that Josheph Babicz and Anna Szymusiak are my great grandparents. That certainly does make us cousins. It would be awesome to see a picture of my Busia! Her name was Angela (Nellie). Her Mother was Thecla (Babicz) Kalec. It appears that her sister was Magdalena.
I can wait to go home from work and read all that you have.
Great to meet you too!
Dave

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Cheri Vanden Berg — Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:47 pm

Author: Cheri Vanden Berg

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:47 pm

Hi cousin Dave!
You can read about my family and see some photos at my Lenart-Babicz from Zaluczne thread:
http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=1104
Joseph Babicz and Anna Szymusiak are my great great grandparents. I don't know who Joseph's parents are yet, but Anna's father was Wojciech Szymusiak.
Good to meet you!
Cheri

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Shellie — Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:39 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:39 pm

cajundave wrote:

By the way, I tried to re-post my document as a JPEG but it wont upload. I only have it on there as a PDF.

Dave I can help you with that - no problem!

By the way, I noticed that the baptism certificate was signed by Father Jan Cantius Mis. Relatively famous priest in Odrowaz.

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:34 pm

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:34 pm

By the way, I tried to re-post my document as a JPEG but it wont upload. I only have it on there as a PDF.

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Shellie — Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:30 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:30 pm

Dave, I am positive that you will hear from her as soon as she reads this thread! I've already sent her a message to look at what you've posted. I know that she is going to be thrilled to meet you.

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:59 pm

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:59 pm

Shelli,
That is wonderful news. How do I reach Cheri? Or, can you advise her?

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Shellie — Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:54 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:54 pm

Ute wrote:

Dave,
What I'm reading is Angela, Roman Catholic, female, legitimate, Father: Thomas Kalec[z], son of Mathias Kalec[z] and Rozalia Kocanda [?]; Mother: Thecla Babicz, daughter of Joseph Babicz and Anna Szymusiak. Witnesses: Vitalis Kalec[z] and Angela Lenart.

This is very exciting information because it looks like your family is related to our fellow member Cheri. Her great-grandmother Magdalena Babicz Lenart is also the daughter of Jozef Babicz and Anna Szymusiak from Zaluczne!

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm

Ute,
Yes that is my family. My father is Casimir. He lives in Elmira, NY.

Dave

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Ute — Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:23 pm

Author: Ute

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:23 pm

Dave,
Just curious -- is this your family? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7HP-1H6
Ute

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

Ute — Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:19 pm

Author: Ute

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:19 pm

cajundave wrote:

Ute,
Additionally, there was some vague rumor that there may have been someone of Jewish decent in her family tree. It would be very interesting to confirm this.
Thanks again,
Dave

Dave,
The answer to that you may find if you go one or two generations back. The Zaluczne Books of Births 1786-1805 are in the Odrowaz parish, however, I don't know if Jewish records were kept separately from Christian records or together with them. Would be interesting to find out.
Ute

Re: Zaluczne near Czarny Dunajec and Odrowaz in Malopolskie

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:30 am

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:30 am

Ute,
Additionally, there was some vague rumor that there may have been someone of Jewish decent in her family tree. It would be very interesting to confirm this.
Thanks again,
Dave

Your kind help

cajundave — Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:19 am

Author: cajundave

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:19 am

Ute,
Thank you so much for you help with this!

Dave