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Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

jeffcdo — Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:29 pm

Author: jeffcdo

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:29 pm

I'm current researching the surname Pores in Rzeszów. The beginnings of this thread are fully 12 years old now, I'm wondering if Mike Burger's site at http://www.mikeburger.com/rzeszow.html - which seems to be down currently - might have been mirrored anywhere?

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:54 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:54 pm

How wonderful that I now am closer to identifying my mystery family! I received a clue on another posting leading me to a photo identifying my soldier: https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=41682#41682 My mystery solder's name is W. Struś. Does anyone have this name in their tree?

Update 11/21/2019: A very kind person shared some information with me on my other forum posting: https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=40728#40728 - We believe that this soldier is Wilhelm Struś. He was found on a family tree at Geni.com. Wilhelm's wife was Zofia Wawro and this is a clue that brings me closer to the possibility that Zofia is my ancestor. The photos I have are from my gg-uncle Frank's visit to Poland in 1930. Frank's mother's family name was Wawro. I sent a message to the tree owner at Geni - fingers crossed!

Update 6/21/2020: A Struś cousin found my posting and contacted me! I hope we can uncover some clues to fill out my family tree! A new photo is posted on this forum page: https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=9669

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:06 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:06 pm

Elzbieta, Thank you for your replies. I wonder if I have found the answer to my question. Here is a screen shot of the photo next to old postcards of Przemyśl from the very interesting site: forgottengalicia.com. I looked closely at the photo and did not see writing the bottom - I think it is a combination of weeds and artifacts from age. The photo was taken in 1930 and has begun to deteriorate.

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:00 pm

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:00 pm

Yes, certainly.

It seems to me something is written on the picture, accross the legs of the lady. I do not have neither software nor knowledge to play with the pic, and try to discover what is written. Maybe something interesting, maybe not.

Best,
Elzbieta

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:15 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:15 pm

Elzbieta,

Thank you for your advice. A cousin of mine found a few tourist photos of Turka (I have no images of these). Perhaps I should also consider this area?

Large rivers with railway bridges in former Galicia

Elzbieta Porteneuve — Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:16 pm

Author: Elzbieta Porteneuve

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:16 pm

Greetings,
I would refolmulate your question: where in former Galicia, between Rzeszow and Drohobycz (circa), there is a large river with railway bridge?
I would add that the pic of the lady is taken on the hill (i.e. hills nearby the city), the view on the bridge (one or two bridges) is from the hill.

Both of my grandfathers have been working for Royal Imperial Railways. My ears recall Lemberg/Lwow to Krakow, then Wien (Lwow, Przemysl, Radymno, Jaroslaw, Lancut, Rzeszow, etc.), and more local line Przemysl, Nizankowice, Chyrow, Lisko, or Sambor and Stryj.

The River San i quite large in Przemysl. And there are hills surrounding Przemysl.
The River Wislok in Rzeszow is tiny tiny, I do no remember any hill there, it's flat.
The River Strwiąż is quite large in Chyrow, but it is flat.
The River Dniestr is large in Sambor, and there are hills.

My guess would be Przemysl, then Sambor.
Best,
Elzbieta

https://maps.geshergalicia.org/galicia/austro-hungary-rail-1901/

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:03 am

Author: Shellie

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:03 am

I knew someday I would get around to posting something new here. This photo, I believe, is of the lady in the plaid dress with the soldier and little girl (see previous page of this thread). The photo is of poor quality, low resolution, and partially cut off by another photo, but the bridges in the background caught my attention. Perhaps these can give me a clue to the location where the photo was taken.

Do these (or did these) bridges exist near the town of Rzeszow? The photo was taken in 1930.

UPDATE June 2020: I discovered that this photo was taken in Przemyśl and a cousin has contacted me!!
You can read more about it here: https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=9669

Thank you!

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:36 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:36 pm

That's great that you've made some connections here!

Thank you for this information and the link! I looks like the number on the cross is the same number on the shoulder - do you know if that is correct?

Unfortunately, the photo I have is not sharp enough to read the cross, but I think the number on the shoulder could be 22? The photo on the right shows some similar medals, but the solder on the right has a 28 on his shoulder and on his large pin.

Update March 21, 2019:
I was lucky enough to receive the following information from another PO member who responded to another posting:https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=41682#41682
On hist breast is a badge of his unit, on his collar an emblem of division. A badge looks like a cross with a circle element in its central part. On the circle can be seen outline of an eagle. There are also two canons crossed, these are the most characteristic elements. This is a badge of a regiment of light artillery.
An emblem on his collar. Three feathers of a bird of pray (an eagle) and svastica. This is an emblem of polish divisions of mountain infantry. Don't be confused that there is a svastica, it is 1930, nobody connects this symbol with nazi in that time. Than it is a symbol of happyness, fertility etc. commonly used by polish mountain units.

Rzeszow-Podkarpackie area of Poland

MDuplaga — Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:48 pm

Author: MDuplaga

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:48 pm

JWons--

Correction: Golcowa is approximately 6 miles from Brzozow!

MaryAnne

Rzeszow-Podkarpackie area of Poland

MDuplaga — Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:43 pm

Author: MDuplaga

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:43 pm

To: JWons Re: Kopczyk's near Golcowa Pow. Brzozow

My "Duplaga" family is from Brzozow. Golcowa is approximately 6 miles from Golcowa.

My 3rd GreatGrandmother in my Duplaga line is named Anna Kopczyk. She was married to Andrea Czuchra.

I know of 2 of their children: Franciszka Czuchra b 1824 (My 2nd GreatGrandmother)

Franciscus Czuchra b 1817

Please contact me with any information you may have on the Kopczyk Line.

MaryAnne
mwduplaga@gmail.com

military uniform

JWons — Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:53 am

Author: JWons

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:53 am

Quote:

Unfortunately there is no identifying info with the photos. I'm also including an image of the soldier who is in the back row. The woman next to him in the group shot is wearing the same coat/dress, but with a fur collar. If anyone can identify the uniform and rank, please post a reply.

I believe the military gentleman in the photo chevron on the sleeve indicates his rank. Something close to sergeant.
The Cross metal would have his regimental number on it. If your photo is sharp enough it might assist you in identification.

I found a similar photo on the site listed below and it should explain the other two metals.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4743&start=435

You might consider adding your photo to the thread and see if someone can give you some help.

I have family from near Rzeszow. The Fus family in Zolynia. I am also looking for Kopczyk's near Golcowa, Pow. Brzozow

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

PaniKohani — Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:52 pm

Author: PaniKohani

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:52 pm

Hello,

Thank you for all this helpful information about Rzeszow. I know many of our ancestors would list the nearest town to where they came from (if it happened to be a village). I am lucky enough to have learned of my maternal grandparents home villages (I started separate topics for each in the hope of gleaning information from other contributors to this site, but, I then saw your specific topic on Rzeszow and decided to post here too).

My maternal grandfather, Tomasz J. Kopic (Kopec/Kopacz?) came from MALAWA, a village just east of Rzeszow.
My maternal grandmother, Agnieszka Filip, came from the village (not town) of CHMIELNIK, just southeast of Rzeszow.

I see there is a Kopec in your list, but no Filip.

I would welcome any historic/current input about these villages or this town, as well as anyone's connection to these surnames in that area. In the meanwhile, I will enjoy perusing the informational links you have provided here.

Also, I am interested in a third surname of WOZNIAK, hailing from the Malawa are too.

As I just joined, I feel like a kid in a candy store (so many 'aisles'-- of information-- to explore!), and would like to contribute where and when I can. I also share your love of looking at old photos (by the way speaking of old family photos-- this past summer, my area had lots of freak rainstorms over a short period-- and our basement suddenly flooded-- unbeknownst to me, some of the 'family albums' had been placed in an old dresser drawer--the wrong place at the wrong time, and we lost over 500 family photos-- some very, very old ones). The irony of this is, if they had been placed only one drawer up, they would have escaped the flood waters. I managed to salvage a couple hundred, but the moral of this unfortunate personal story is: "Keep your old photos in a safe (and dry) place"-never, never, never in the basement!

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:13 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:13 pm

A nice collection of vital records can be viewed here: http://www.mikeburger.com/rzeszow.html

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:40 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:40 pm

Ahhhh it's so frustrating to have photos of my family and no one to tell me who they are! Thank you so much for looking at my photos with a fresh pair of eyes. By the way, is Duplaga a common Polish name? Any family in the Beaver County, PA area?

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

MDuplaga — Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:06 am

Author: MDuplaga

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:06 am

Hi Shellie,
Happy New year to all on the forum!
I see the additional photos you posted and the only thing I see for sure is the little girl being the same. That head of hair and the cut are on the same girl. The new photo where we see the back & side of her head shows where the hair is cut with some ear showing and it matched the placement of the hair on the portriat photo.
I realized that I could enlarge those photos on this page and that helped a lot-but it is hard to tell if the soldier is the same in the portrait as the one outside the house. I almost still think it is more likely they are related rather than the same guy-but I'm not an expert. Wtih the enlargement, I was able to see the medals better, so that will be helpful for you in identifying them.
In general-this is a tough one!
sorry I can't be more helpful.
MaryAnne

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:12 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:12 pm

MaryAnne,
Happy New Year! Thank you for the comments and for adding me to your list. I added the 2 other photos that I had (see the original posting). I don't know if it will help us - notice the little girl never stays still long enough to capture her face in the photos. Also, there is a toddler, you can barely see his head at the bottom of the photos.

If anyone has viewed church records for Rzeszow, please contact me. Also, if you know anyone named Ference from Rzeszow, please let me know.
Shellie

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

MDuplaga — Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:13 pm

Author: MDuplaga

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:13 pm

Shellie,

Thanks for the referral to Shorpy.com--I will check it out very soon.

You may be interested in www.stareatelier.pl which is a website that contains photos specifically from Poland. I found it helpful in identifying some time periods through comparison. Months ago, I sent an email to the guy with photos to see if he could help me identify time periods, but he has not replied, but that is OK, I still appreciated viewing his whole website.

I notice your portrait Soldier is wearing a few medals-Have you tried http://www.virtuti.com to try to identify them?

I look forward to seeing additional photos of yours.

With your original photos and your capability to enlarge details- it may be interesting to check out the 3 caps being worn in the group shot.

I'm not convinced that the soldiers in each photo are the same guy, besides the fact that the uniforms are different, I'm just not sure. They could be brothers?

I think the ladies wearing the one Plaid dress are definately different and stick to my opinion that the lady in the portrait gifted or leant the plaid dress to the lady in the group shot. The lady in the group shot is much larger than the lady in the portrait and the jacket does not meet in the front. Yet the little girl in each photo appears to be the same with a full head of short hair and wearing a little white dress, without the sweater in one of the photos, so it's the same time frame? I wonder who the guy in the light suit & hat is? Is he with the woman in light outfit & hat or did someone lend him this suit-I think not as it seems to fit him well.

I keep a 5 x 7 index card by my computer listing ALL the surnames that I'm researching. I also have an additional card listing the names & locations of the people whom I encounter that are searching for people from the same area as myself. Then if I find myself at some obscure website or list of polish names, I will check to see if mine or anyone else's are listed. So I will add: For Shellie--- Ference/Rzeszow

MaryAnne

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:08 am

Author: Shellie

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:08 am

Hi MaryAnne,
I'm not insulted at all and welcome your comments. You are so right about being so close to a project and missing details - that's what I love about this forum - it gives us the chance to learn from others and benefit from their point of view. I have a some additional photos that I think I'll post, of that same group of people.

Your comment about the uniform just gave me an idea to examine more closely the collar and see if the rank is the same on both photos. I'm pretty sure that the soldier is the same man in both photos. It's much harder for me to say whether the lady in the plaid dress is the same as the one in the studio portrait - your comments suggest that you think they are not the same lady. The lady in the studio portrait certainly looks more elegant, doesn't she? I'm like you - I LOVE pouring over old photos, especially old family photos that I have scanned and can enlarge to examine details. I love it when I zoom in on something in the background that was captured in the photo, but no one ever noticed it because it was too small in the snapshot. That's why Shorpy.com is one of my favorite websites. I am glad that you found my list of surnames helpful. Please let me know if your research in Rzeszow progresses to looking at microfilm of church records. I'd like to know if my Ference family name shows up in those records. I plan to look through them myself someday, but I'm currently looking at films for another part of my family.
Thank you for your thoughtful and detailed comments!

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

MDuplaga — Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:24 am

Author: MDuplaga

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:24 am

Shellie,

I had been researching Soldier's Uniforms and recall that the uniform with what I refer to as "The RickRack" look on the collar is from the Polish Army-sorry I don't recall the year, but I think it was after 1900.

In regards to the "Rzeszow" labeled photo. 1.) Your Uncle may have visited his parents home or a sibling's home or also consider a Godparent's home or even Grandparents or Aunt & Uncle's home in Rzeszow 2.) Or perhaps he was visitng his spouses family home. Please note that his spouse had her arm around one of the boys in this photo. Perhaps he was a favorite younger brother or nephew of hers?
I think you are quite an experienced researcher-but sometimes with all the details we have to deal with, it bares a reminder of the possibilities, so please do not feel insulted that I have stated what seems to be the obvious possibilities!
In regards to the Plaid Dress. It appears New & fresh in the photo of the lady, soldier & child, so I think this lady is the original owner of the dress. Perhaps this lady loaned the dress to the lady in the group photo or had given it to her as a hand-me-down gift. I don't know if you noticed or not, but there appears to be the head of a baby who is seated on the ground in front of the woman in the front row in the group photo.

I thank you for posting these photos, as I never tire of seeing them, and hope that others will also post more photos. I have been studying photos for the past year and find them to be a valuable resource when compared with the photos of my other relatives and even with other researchers of the same surnames. I have come up with some very interesting similarities between them, which indicates to me that even though we have not discovered any acutal documentation to connect our families, the proof is in the photos that we DO actually have a connection and need to keep up our pursuit of research to find it.

Also, Thanks for posting all those names associated with Rzeszow-Buczek is one of the surnames I am researching.

My Best,
MaryAnne

Re: Rzeszow - Rzeszów in Podkarpackie area of Poland

Shellie — Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:03 pm

Author: Shellie

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:03 pm

Hi Zenon! I found this info about Tadeusz Ferenc just last week. I sent him an email, but of course, he is probably too busy to reply. If anyone reads this posting and knows of any Ferenc people in Rzeszow, please contact me. Thank You!
Shellie