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Re: Karbonic Osowo - Any help appreciated

Slav — Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:15 pm

Author: Slav

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:15 pm

Jennie, thanks for you feedback. Good to know that you've made some progress. If you need any further assistance, our Forum members, including myself, are ready to help.

Best wishes,

Slav

Re: Karbonic Osowo - Any help appreciated

jenniesmith — Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:29 am

Author: jenniesmith

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:29 am

Slav - Thank you for your information. I appreciate the surname translation, especially. After digging in a little deeper, I found out my Karbonics came from Ozomla. At the time my great grandfather left, it was a Polish village with mainly Ukrainian speakers. Currently, it is in Western Ukraine and is called Vizhomlia in Lviv area, Ukraine.

I agree with you on the surname changes to our variation. My great grandfather's brother spelled his name Karbownik, as it is spelled on his gravestone. Thank you for your time to gather these details. We had always called this side of the family the Polish side and I am glad for your information.

Thanks,

Jennie

Origins of surname Karbonic (Karbownik)

Slav — Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:39 am

Author: Slav

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:39 am

Jennie,

A lot of water has flown in the Vistula since you posted your questions but you may still find this useful.

First of all, Karbonic may have been spelled differently in Poland (see articles on name changes
http://polishorigins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=159 ).

According to a map of Polish surnames ( https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/ ), based on an official register of citizens from around the year 2000, there were no people with the name Karbonic or Karbonik.
My guess is that the surname was spelled Karbownik. The surname is pronounced like this: http://www.ivona.com/pl/?tk=tvlBiqH4oW

In Polish, a “w” is pronounced like a “v”, but it is difficult to say Karbownik using English rules of pronunciation. That is why I think the “w” was dropped and the “k” was changed to the “c”, hence Karbonic.

Circa 2000, there were 2848 people in Poland with the name Karbownik: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Karbownik
In the bottom right corner of the page, you can see the top ten counties (powiaty) and towns (cities) where this surname occurs most often.

According to Wikipedia, there are two places called Osowo in the Pomeranian Province (Pomorskie).
One of them is in Slupsk County:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osowo,_S%C5%82upsk_County
The nazwiska-polskie map shows a concentration of Karbownik in Slupsk County (between 26 and 50 people): it is the yellow patch on the Baltic coast.

The other Osowo in Pomerania is in Koscierzyna County: the white patch southeast of Slupsk County on the surname map (this means no or nearly no residents with this surname).

You can also check other places called Osowo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osowo

Another possible spelling is Karbowiak, pronounced like this: http://www.ivona.com/pl/?tk=SOHsmrhYfg
Here you can see its distribution in Poland: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Karbowiak

However, I think that Karbonic is more likely to have evolved from Karbownik than Karbowiak.

The surnames Karbownik and Karbowiak are derived from the Polish root karb meaning “notch, nick” or karbowy meaning “overseer”. Related surnames are Karbowniczek, Karbowski and Karbowy.

Click here http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=Karbownik to check what can be found about your surname in the PolishOrigins Databases tool. If you enter Karbonic, your posts in this Forum come up first!

According to the PolishOrigins Surnames Database, there is no one interested in the surname Karbownik or Karbowiak at the moment but if you fill in the surnames and places of your PolishOrigins Profile, someone interested in this surname or in the same places as you will be able to find you in the future.
You can do this by clicking Profile at the top of the PolishOrigins website (or clicking this link http://forum.polishorigins.com/profile.php?mode=editprofile ).

I have used the following sources.

Karbonic Osowo - Any help appreciated

jenniesmith — Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:57 am

Author: jenniesmith

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:57 am

Hi - I am looking for any detail on my Great grandfather family name, Karbonic. His name was Frank Karbonic and I am told he immigrated from Osowo in 1912 to Winnipeg, Manitoba. I cannot find him on ancestry.com searches for immigration and seems to be a dead end.

When I do google earth searches for Osowo, there are several that come up and most of them show open land, no villages. Is the accepted common Osowo in Pomerania?

Is there any information on Karbonic? I know of one other family that ended up Connecticut with the same name spelling. I am curious if this is a common name or unique?

I appreciate any help forum members can provide. We knew little of this side of the family growing up and I am trying to connect dots before another generation lapses.

Jennie