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Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:13 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:13 am

1934 Skorowidz Miejscowosci reads that parish for Gron was in Bialka (it does not mention Tatrazanska).

LDS has a film for a Bialka but I don't know if it refers to the same place: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=139348&disp=Kopie+ksi%26%23x119%3Bg+metrykalnych%20%20&columns=*,0,0

Whenever I don't find a place in LDS website I use Keyword Search, rather than Place Name search.

Have you already checked the Pradziad database in http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en?

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:38 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:38 am

Dziękuję Bardzo - and I really appreciate your time, information and help.

PS-Do you know if there is any LDS films for Nowy Targ, Groń, Bialka Tatrazanska area?

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:27 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:27 pm

Today I received the birth indexes in russian. Unfortunately, they have the same content of those birth records in polish (I had not figure out that before). Since I am also researching this area, I found out that some people were registered in Drobin parish, rather than Koziebrody. There are LDS films for that parish. Sorry I could not be of more help.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:30 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:30 am

Bill,
I have checked the birth indexes from 1874 to 1890 and did not find any Spiegowski/Spiegowska. The closest match is an Anton Spiek, born in 1886 (record number is 127). These indexes are pretty legible and were taken from the LDS microfilm 1808243 (items 5-7). The item 5 covers the records mentioned above, in polish; the item 6 covers births from 1875-1890 in russian, but I don't have the indexes anymore. I will try to get them with another friend.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:45 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:45 pm

You are welcome. Anna mentions her place as Proboszczewice, gmina plockie. This is very close to Radzanowo. And there is a Wladyslaw Spiegowski indicating his place as Ossag-Wielki (I believe it is Osieki Wielki). The name is pretty common in Poland places, and there are two or three near Plocok. As you, I check places in present-day Poland using mapa.szukacz.pl

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:26 pm

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:26 pm

Thanks I finally got it. I see #8 was also from the same town and both going to Pittsburgh. Anna is going to her uncles house in Detroit- this is the same address (312 Tillman st) where I found the Spiegowski living in the 1920 and 1930 census. The puzzle is all fitting together, thanks for your extra help.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:26 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:26 pm

Hi,
I have used SM Gold search but only type Anton and Spiegowski and selected 'is phonetically".

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\IMAGES\\T715-0280\\T715-02800662.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102760110392&name=Antony%26nbsp%3BSpiegowsky&doa=May+31%2C+1902&port=Hamburg&line=0002

Francis arrival:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\IMAGES\\T715-0106\\T715-01060364.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=603930030113&name=Francis%26nbsp%3BSpiegowski&doa=Mar+08%2C+1900&port=Bremen&line=0023

Anna Spiegowska in 1910 (Anton's daugther?)
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?MID=15557798700005277088&pID=101487070080&lookup=101487070080&show=\\192.168.100.11\images\T715-1602\T715-16020837.TIF&origFN=\\192.168.100.11\IMAGES\T715-1602\T715-16020836.TIF

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:16 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:16 am

Magroski49 wrote:

There is a Antony Spiegowsky arriving at EI on May 31, 1902. He was "only sixteen", which is very close to the birth year on the draft card. His father was Franz and his last residence was Radzanowo, in Pl~ock powiat.

I cannot locate this record, I tried it through Ancestry and also Steve Morse's gold search at Ellis Island. Got a hint for me?

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:42 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:42 am

Why that is just great. Thanks for your help, you have made my day. Dziękuję Bardzo!

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:31 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:31 am

I have just asked a member of our brazilian group to send the scanned images for the birth indexes 1886 and 1889. I have a fair idea of how Spiegowski looks like in Cyrillic. Enjoy your Sunday! As soos as get the images I will let you know.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:27 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:27 am

Wow how about that, small world isn't it. That's is good news. Double dzienki!

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:21 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:21 am

Things are getting better and better: his father Francis arrived on March 8, 1900 and declared his place as Gradzanowo, in mlawski powiat. Now, guess what? Gradzanowo is located less than 10 mile N of Koziebrody!

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:14 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:14 am

I gave you the wrong year, it was in 1902, his wife was 1910. Off to EI for the record, Dzienki!

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:13 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:13 am

I forgot to add he naturalized on August 24, 1938, accordingly to the note on the ship manifest.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:08 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:08 am

There is a Antony Spiegowsky arriving at EI on May 31, 1902. He was "only sixteen", which is very close to the birth year on the draft card. His father was Franz and his last residence was Radzanowo, in Pl~ock powiat.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:52 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:52 am

Yes I agree with the Galicia or Austria-Hungary on most forms. I re-checked his census records and they state Russia/Poland also. I'm thinking he may be from the Ukraine area of Galicia. His name is Anthony Spiegoski b.1888 (emigrated 1910).

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:28 am

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:28 am

Last month I took lots of pictures of BMD indexes from Koziebrody and they covered 1889. However, the indexes were in Cyrillic, which I am not able to read. These imagens were sent to another genealogical website and are available for volunteers who are willing to help transcribing them. If the place of your ancestor is Koziebrody, maybe his/her names could be on those indexes.
From what I have seen, draft cards would state Galicia or Austria if the person was born there, rather than Poland-Russia as in this card. Misspelling of polish names are also very common in non polish papers.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:11 am

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:11 am

Well thanks for trying. I couldn't find anything on Kezibroda but Koziebrody is on the map and it states it use to be in Plonsk. (Near Warsaw) But maybe I'll try looking for some old towns in Galicia since it states Russia also.

Re: Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Anonymous — Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:38 pm

Author: Anonymous

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:38 pm

Bill,
I read it as Kezibroda (reminded me Koziebrody). Maybe Pucka is how Pl~óck is pronounced.
Gilberto

Town Location Help - Gradzanowo, Koziebrody?

Bill Rushin — Fri May 13, 2011 10:03 pm

Author: Bill Rushin

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:03 pm

Any clues to this town location. (info from WWI draft card)