Sire Jo
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:25 pm
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| BarbOslo wrote: | | BarbOslo wrote: | | I'll look into this later tonight. I know Russian, and can help with the birth record. There is a 12-13 day difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars. Depending on whether it is a leap year or not. Don't worry about the 2 year difference. The most correct is always a wedding document, where the person himself reports the age. Family members who are left do not always know the age of the deceased. Especially when older family members die. |
When Marianna married in 1868, she was 19 years old. This means that she was born in abt. 1849. This also confirms her birth record. She was born on 26.06.1849.
When Jozef got married, he was 26 years old. This gives birth year abt. 1842. He was born on 23.02.1842. So it all fits perfectly.
-Barb |
Ok, thank you ! So that means it is a mistake on the grave, she died at 82 and not 84. Thanks for you help, I have much more informations about my family now, it is amazing !
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:05 pm
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855. Częstochowa town
It happened in the town of Częstochowa, on August 5th /17th, 1890, at 5 p.m.
Appeared Józef Chrzanowski, a worker, 49 years old, living in Częstochowa, in the presence of Jan Zberski, a citizen, 37 years old and Antoni Reterski, a locksmith, 42 years old, both living in Częstochowa and presented Us a newborn male child, informing that the child was born in Częstochowa on July 29th/August 10th of the current year, at 12 o'clock at night, to his legal wife, Marianna nee Tomaszewska, 37 years old.
At The Holy Baptism, held today by the priest Izydor Kowalski, vicar, the child was given the name Ludwik, and her godparents were Jan Zberski and Marianna Reterska.
This act was read to the declarant and the witnesses, who were illiterate, and it was signed by Us.
Priest's signature
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:10 pm
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| Sire Jo wrote: | | BarbOslo wrote: | | BarbOslo wrote: | | I'll look into this later tonight. I know Russian, and can help with the birth record. There is a 12-13 day difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars. Depending on whether it is a leap year or not. Don't worry about the 2 year difference. The most correct is always a wedding document, where the person himself reports the age. Family members who are left do not always know the age of the deceased. Especially when older family members die. |
When Marianna married in 1868, she was 19 years old. This means that she was born in abt. 1849. This also confirms her birth record. She was born on 26.06.1849.
When Jozef got married, he was 26 years old. This gives birth year abt. 1842. He was born on 23.02.1842. So it all fits perfectly.
-Barb |
Ok, thank you ! So that means it is a mistake on the grave, she died at 82 and not 84. Thanks for you help, I have much more informations about my family now, it is amazing ! |
Yes, correct. This tombstone came almost 100 years after they were born. They did not remember the exact date of birth.
-Barb
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:42 am
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The most important thing from this document (not a full translation):
No.32 Wieluń
It happened in the town of Wieluń, on November 3rd/15th, 1868, at 4 p.m.
A religious marriage was concluded on this day, between:
Józef Chrzan / Chrzanowski, a bachelor, 26 years old, living in Wieluń, a son of the late spouses Chrzanowski: Tomasz and Gertruda, who was born in the village of Parcice.
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Marianna Tomaszczyk, a miss, 19 years old, who was born and living in the town Wieluń, a daughter of the late Mateusz and living Agnieszka (currently living in Wieluń).
-Barb
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Sire Jo
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:26 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: |
The most important thing from this document (not a full translation):
No.32 Wieluń
It happened in the town of Wieluń, on November 3rd/15th, 1868, at 4 p.m.
A religious marriage was concluded on this day, between:
Józef Chrzan / Chrzanowski, a bachelor, 26 years old, living in Wieluń, a son of the late spouses Chrzanowski: Tomasz and Gertruda, who was born in the village of Parcice.
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Marianna Tomaszczyk, a miss, 19 years old, who was born and living in the town Wieluń, a daughter of the late Mateusz and living Agnieszka (currently living in Wieluń).
-Barb |
Thank you again a lot for your help, I wouldn't have imagined to find all those informations !
And for the uniforms/medals, do you know if there is a museum in Poland about the 1863 insurrection, so I can ask them ? I searched on the web but didn't found anything except a museum of the army in Warszawa, maybe I'll start there
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:49 am
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Sire Jo
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:46 pm
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I did send a message, they had quite a lot informations about the uniform, the medal and the war itself. Very good suggestion that was !
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:08 pm
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So great to hear this. Hope your research is progressing.
-Barb
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