Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:00 pm
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Tom,
I also used to think that the years written in that manifest column were the separate years that someone was in the USA, but I was told that this likely means from 1903 through 1908. It could be that Anna was born in Poland when Katarazyna was visiting.
Yes, Agnieszka had the information on her passport that her father Antoni lived in the USA from 1905-1915, but my guess had been that she didn't know the exact year he died. It appears from the information on the passport that she was in Poland when he died (which had to be sometime after the draft registration, and before Agnieszka applied for a passport in 1923).
If you could scan Sophia Wyka's birth place from your grandmother's naturalization application, and add that here, maybe someone will recognize the village name. I did not find Jerzon at Google maps, but that doesn't mean there isn't a village by that name.
Cheri
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dnowickiPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:50 pm
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Tom,
Not being able to find Antoni on any census does not necessarily mean that he does not appear on a census form. Often the enumerator was not familiar with Polish names and may have entered Antoni's last name with spelling which does not resemble his actual name. My great grandparents do not appear on any index for the 1900 census because the enumerator wrote their last name as Chafraski instead of Szafranski. I found them by searching the pages of the ED where they lived. Of course, that method only works if you have a good idea of where they resided.
Also, there is a record of Agnieszka Zybura's arrival in America which completes what you have learned from her passport application. She arrived at New York on 12/27/1923 aboard the Oscar II which departed from Copenhagen. The manifest is available on the Ellis Island website.
Dave
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Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:06 pm
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Dave, In 1923 is there only one manifest page for the passengers? I thought I might find Agnieszka's contact in Poland, but I only saw one page.
I believe I found Antoni's widow and family in 1920, from Family Search:
Name: Eva Zibura
Event Type:
Event Year: 1920
Event Place: , Passaic, New Jersey
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Birthplace: Galicia
Birth Year (Estimated): 1892
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Birthplace:
Household ID: 184
Sheet Number: 14
GS Film number: 1821063
Digital Folder Number: 4313364
Image Number: 00156
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Mary Babiash F 22y Galicia [I don't think she is part of the household, she is written before Eva]
SELF Eva Zibura F 28y Galicia
DAU Anna Zibura F 12y Galicia
DAU Genophene Zibura F 6y New Jersey
DAU Alga Zibura F 4y9m New Jersey
DAU Caroline Zibura F 2y5m New Jersey
SELF Bruno Zerno M 26y Galicia
WIFE Marian Zerno F 26y Galicia
[Below Marian Zerno is a Marian Zibura, age 40, she might be a widow, it's hard to read. I think she is part of this household. It looks like the enumerator numbered households wrong.]
As you can see, here is Anna. I still think that your theory might be correct, that Aunt Mary could be the child of a sibling of Sophie, but you have some further searching to do. Do you know who the Zernos are?
Cheri
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:19 pm
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I know what you mean when the enumerator wrote what he thought he heard for the names. in 1930, they have my grandfather's last name as Slesky, instead of Sleaszynski. I only found it because I was going from page to page in the township that they lived, spotted his two daughters only because one's name is unusual, Marcella. Then below that name was my mother, Mary. Also in 1930 they have us recorded as Wakuala instead of Wakula. I know where Antoni Zybura lived in Passaic, now I just need to find out what enumeration district that address is in, then go page to page.
Eva Zibura could be the second wife of Antoni. On his WWi Registration Card she is listed as Ewa, so what you found is most likely the right one. I am hoping that the church will be able to give me some, if not all the information I requested in a letter I sent them today. I even volunteered to take a trip to the Parish in Passaic, NJ and either do the searches myself or assist them.
Everyone has been so helpful, you have no idea what this means to me to have your help. I thank you so much.
Tom
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dnowickiPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:54 pm
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Cheri & Tom,
Until now I never had any reason to look at any manifest after the beginning of WW I since all my ancestors and relatives came to the USA from 1868 to 1914 so I am no expert on later manifests. Cheri's question about their being only one page for Agnieszka's manifest made me curious. I checked the previous images for the manifest of the Oscar II and found that there were two distinct manifest forms used at the time---one for citizens with a USA passport and another for aliens. The manifest for citizens is the short one page form where Agnieszka's name appears. A few pages earlier are manifests for aliens which are almost identical to those used just before WW I and have the kind of information Cheri hoped to find. I remember from history that in the early 1920s immigration laws were changed quite radically and the quota system was used which favored Western Europeans over Southern and Eastern Europeans, etc. Perhaps the special manifest form for citizens came in at the same time. I never saw one prior to the war, but I never looked for one either.
Tom,
There is a very useful site for locating EDs for censuses from 1880 through 1940---Steve Morse's one step pages. It can be found at www.stevemorse.org His site also has pages for finding other things in one step --- like immigration records. If you have not used it before, it would be worth checking out.
Best of luck with the research.
Dave
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:54 pm
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I have spent most of the day working on the Zyburas that I am quite sure are related to my grandmother, have made all notations I need to compare with what I receive from St. Joseph's Church in Passaic, NJ. So, for now, I don't think there is more than I can do on that side.
I turned my attention to my mother's father, Wladislaw Sleaszynski, his wife and child and I have found their records, thanks to Dave and the Steve Morse's one stop website. As posted earlier on, a record for my grandfather, Wladislaw coming to the US in 1907 is the correct record. A cousin on my mother's side indicated that Wladislaw had a brother, John that came to the US and was in the area of Avoca, PA, which is where the town listed earlier is near, so that makes sense.
Then I found a record for Franciseka Szlisinska, daughter, Marianna arriving in the US May 5, 1911, going to Avoca, PA to be with husband and father, Wladislaw. Even though the spelling of the names is different, I know that this record is the correct one because Franciseka's mother's name is on the manifest and that name has been confirmed by the death certificate for Marcella (Marianna). Interesting that her name is Marianna on the manifest and we always knew her as Aunt Martha as she did not like the name Marcella. Where ever that came from!?
A good day
Tom
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