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mcdonald0517
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: Geneteka database question

Hello,

This question is for anyone who has used the Geneteka online database. I found the marriage of my one of my great-grandparents in the database, but the original record was not scanned for download so I only have the index. The index shows Antoni Zolnierzak and Magdalena Kupis were married in 1858 the village of Zambski. If the original record was not scanned in Geneteka, does that mean there is no further information available, or does it mean I need to get the document through another resource? Where do you suggest I go for the original document?

Thank you for any help you can offer! I have found all the U.S. documentation for all 8 grandparents, but I am just beginning to do research in Poland. Luckily, Geneteka provided me with this marriage index and the original birth records for my grandfather and great-uncle, so it is encouraging!!!

Kind regards,
Cynthia Bielec McDonald

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:46 am Post subject:

Hi Cynthia,

I have been able to find all of my records that were indexed on Geneteka for Lubelskie either at Family Search or the Polish Archives.
Which province is the village of Zambski in?

Joann

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:22 am Post subject:

Cynthia,

Zambski records are kept in two localtions:
- the AP (Archiwum Panstwowe) in Plock, starting 1874, scans in ZoSIA (http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/79/143/0/?q=zambski&wynik=7&rpp=15&page=1#tabZespol) and in Metryki (http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ar6-zs0143d)
- the AD (Archiwum Diecezjalne) in Plocki, starting 1696:
Pradziad: 514/213/0
Zambski Kościelne, community Obryte 1696-1825, 1848-1889
rzymskokatolickie
małżeństwa

Unfortunately, AD Plock records are not scanned, so far. From what I have read in Genealodzy forum they don't personal to perform genealogical searches, nor funds to digitalize their books. You can ask for help in the following topic:
http://genealodzy.pl/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-5257.phtml

Gilberto

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject:

Joann,

From my research, Zambski is in Gmina Obryte in the Mazowieki province.

Cynthia

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:38 pm Post subject:

Gilberto, thank you for the information. I will start checking. - Cynthia

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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:57 pm Post subject: Same question

I am also looking for some documents that are indexed on Geneteka, but without scans. I do not see the corresponding dates for the towns in the LDS catalog and got no results from the online state archives.

Are there people who index these directly from the parish records, or if it is in an index can we assume there is a scan somewhere? I would like to ask at the Geneteka site but I don't speak Polish and not sure if I can communicate the question correctly via Google translation.

The towns/ years are:
Zale, (Rypin) 1885 and 1896 (birth records.)

If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it!

Christine

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Same question

Cmstanley wrote:

Christine,

Geneteka volunteers transcribe records from indexes and also from records. In some cases, volunteers sign an agreement stating they are not allowed to provide scanned copies of the index/record. Some volunteers have copy of the records and can give you a copy (since they did not sign the agreement), some have just a copy of the index (that would be of no help to you).

The last column of the Geneteka index displays the volunteer's name. Once you register to Geneteka you can ask him/her if he/she has a copy of the record. Some volunteers do not respond, but you have nothing to lose in trying. A short message is included below.

You can also request a copy to the Archive State. In Zale case, I see that some records are also kept at the Diocese Archives in Plock.

Szanowny Panie/Szanowna Pani
Dear Sir/Ms

Zauwazylem, ze pan/pani przepisywal/przepisywala ponizej rejestr:
I see that you (he)/you(she) have transcribed the record below:

Czy pan/pani posiada dodatkowe informacje na ten rejestr?
Do you (he)/(she) have additional information on this record?

Jak ja moge otrzymac kopie od tego rejestru?
What should I do to get a copy of this record?

Z góry bardzo dziekuje
I thank you for your help in advance.

Gilberto

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:17 am Post subject:

Excellent, Gilberto. Thank you so much, I will give it a try.

Christine

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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:20 pm Post subject:

Hello,

I have used Geneteka successfully in searching for ancestors in Podlaskie province but I find that there are few or no references after 1850. I realize that this is when the Russians required that baptisms, marriages and deaths be recorded in that language. Does anyone know if there are any plans to index those records?

Robert S.

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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject:

srcit76 wrote:

Robert,

In Geneteka click on the icon 'clock' (plany) to see a list of places that are being indexed or waiting for volunteers. The same in Metryki.

Gilberto

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:15 am Post subject:

Magroski49 wrote:

srcit76 wrote:

Robert,

In Geneteka click on the icon 'clock' (plany) to see a list of places that are being indexed or waiting for volunteers. The same in Metryki.

Gilberto

Thanks Gilberto,

Unfortunately the parish I'm interested in is not on the list.

Robert S.

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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:18 am Post subject:

Hi again, recently I was able to discount the lead on my grandmother to being someone else. However I believe I might have finally broken through . could you please tell me the steps I need to follow to retrieve the SKAN ? I do not want to reveal the info yet because there are many people interested. I want to submit my findings to the Polish Academy of Sciences in Warsaw first for verification. Since I have parkinsons my days to type are limited. do you have the name of the director and address? thanks carol

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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:41 pm Post subject:

ctamara wrote:

Carol,

The SKAN icon in Geneteka leads either to ZoSIA or to Metryki.
Which is your case?
I don't know director's name or address of the Polish Academy of Sciences.

Gilberto

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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:59 pm Post subject:

Thank you for answering. I believe its Metryki. Carol

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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:54 am Post subject:

ctamara wrote:

Thank you for answering. I believe its Metryki. Carol

Metryki opens a page displaying the numbers of the records.
Click on the one you found indexed in Geneteka.
Once the image loads, click on the 3rd. icon at the top of the page (just abobe the polish word Powieksz) to download it to your PC.

Gilberto

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