Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:28 am
Post subject: Richert, Bonkowski, Rossel near Lipno
GM- Bertha Richert, b. 13 Nov. 1883 f- Barthol Richert, m-Louise Bonkowski. Bertha went to USA about 1902. F died and M remarried Jan Rossel. They had at least one daughter, Olga who married ?? maybe Plaz. Olga was sent to British zone after WWII and all men killed. Family may have been from the area around Lipno or Plock. Looking for any possible connection. Family was probably Lutheran and spoke German. Ship's manifest difficult to read but these are possibilities: Jachin, Janiszewo or Josyissy.
Any leads would be helpful.
Wynn
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sirdanPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:00 pm
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Hello, could you give a link to the ship's manifest? We could try decipher the town/village name.
When it comes to lutheran records, there is database of Płock vital records of lutheran parish here http://www.archiwum.plock.com/acts.php Edit: Acually there are roman-catholic rcords
There are many indexed vital records of many towns including Lipno here http://www.szpejankowski.eu/index.php/pl/metryki-wykazy-osob/102.html just search for Lipno ew_augsburska. Only begining of XIX cent.
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:52 pm
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This is from the first link I posted.
Hopefully, you can view it.
And thank you!
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:29 pm
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Im not convincend on all pictures is the same Rudolf. Some of towns/villages doesnt exist (or i read with error) or they might be german spoken. Rudolf reported his ethnicity as german.
1. Jessiny, Jerziny
2. Josynny (?)
3. Jesin, Jasień
4. Jarzyn, Jaszyn
I looked for similar sounding towns and viliges. My types are:
Jasień - in a half way between Płock and Lipno, Kujawian voivodeship, in the twenties of XIX century in Jasień Budy were settled german colonists. Later they belonged to Lipno lutheran Parish
http://jasien.jimdo.com/historia-jasienia/
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Jasin - very small village near Rypin/Godziszewy, Kujawian Voivodeship.
Jasień - Rogów/Brzeziny, Łódź voivodeship, there is an old lutheran cementery, people that lived there were ethnical germans
Jasień - Bytów/Czarna Dąbrówka, Pomeranian Voivodeship (Pomorskie), old lutheran parish and church
Looks like Jasień/Jasin name (german Gassen or Jassen) is somehow connected with Lutherans
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:41 pm
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Thank you for looking at these,
My grandmother, Rudolf's older sister, always said the family was German and she spoke German. She much have know Polish but, according to my mother, hated both the Poles and the Russians. She was Lutheran in Connecticut so probably Lutheran in Prussia. She was born in 1883 and the Lutheran Records from Lipno don't seem to be on line anywhere that I can find. Also, my mother made a note that the family came from German for the land.
I suspect your first idea is the correct town since there are references to both Lipno and Plock by some of her siblings.
I do think the last 2 ship's manifest are for the same Rudolf given the reference to his mother and step-father that I "think" are correct.
I continue to look.
Again, thank you for your help. Any suggestions or ideas are very much appreciated.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Richert, Bonkowski, Rossel near Lipno
| wynngen wrote: | GM- Bertha Richert, b. 13 Nov. 1883 f- Barthol Richert, m-Louise Bonkowski. Bertha went to USA about 1902. F died and M remarried Jan Rossel. They had at least one daughter, Olga who married ?? maybe Plaz. Olga was sent to British zone after WWII and all men killed. Family may have been from the area around Lipno or Plock. Looking for any possible connection. Family was probably Lutheran and spoke German. Ship's manifest difficult to read but these are possibilities: Jachin, Janiszewo or Josyissy.
Any leads would be helpful.
Wynn |
Hi Wynn, We may have some connections. My father's parents were German Lutherans and came from the Lipno area.
I've been researching several surnames through that area
More to the point, my grandmother's mother (my great grandmother) name was Anna Richert B:~1842 Teodorow. Anna's father was Christian Richert B:1814. I don't have much on the Richert line, but will be working on filling in missing pieces.
Bob
Offline: Bob.krampetz at gmail
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