starkey76
Joined: 17 Sep 2013
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Location: Wheeling, WV USABack to top |
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:29 pm
Post subject: Lleinrewalda, West Prussia
Hello,
I was researching Sonnefeld/Sonnenfeld's in Wheeling WV, and I was looking for a point of origin, and maybe got lucky. Here goes
John Przelenski married Anna Sonnefeld around 1880 and arrived in the US sometime around 1881, with 1 daughter Mary.
Along with them was Anna's mother Henrietta(1836-1911), and her 2 brothers Michael Sonnefeld(found voyage of arrival in 1882) and Charles/Carl Sonnefeld(found voyage in 1881, with wife Louisa and children).
I started noticing in the Wheeling register's, another name was popping up, Sonnenwald/Sonnewald. Then I noticed Louisa death certificate in 1925, said her maiden name was Sonnenwald, and in 1886 and 1888, Charles Sonnefeld and his wife Louisa lived at the same address as a Fred Sonnenwald. I think Fred was Louisa's brother, or at least they were related. Then I started digging on Fred.
What's confusing was the multiple records, then I noticed, they're all the same guy. Fred was married to a women named Caroline Holtz/Holz who died in 1896. But on a 1884 voyage, both a Fred and Caroline are going to WV aboard the Braunschweig in Nov 1884.
Then in 1890 #139, another Fred and Caroline Sonnenwald were again heading to WV along with their first son John, along with I believe Caroline's mother Marianna Holz and her brother John Holz. Not sure who the Loepert's fit in just yet.
Then the 1910 voyage of Fred Sonnenwald #15. On the second page it lists a place of birth, but I can't make it out. I noticed the passport #25008 and dated April 18, 1910 written in and started looking for that. And bingo. Passport application verifies first trip aboard the Braunschweig, although the year is off. More importantly gives a place of birth as a Lleinrewalda, West Prussia? Can't seem to find a place named that.
Anyways, maybe a wild goose chase, but I think the Sonnenwald's will lead to the Sonnefeld's, and the Sonnefeld's should lead to the Przelenski's. Also gives me another naturalization to look up for 1888.
Thanks
John
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UtePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:39 am
Post subject: Re: Lleinrewalda, West Prussia
John,
I'm pretty sure that the name of the place is Kleinrehwalde resp. Klein Rehwalde, Westpreussen (West Prussia).
View http://www.westpreussen.de/einwohner/index.php?m=family&id=I135399 on Family Research in West Prussia (in German):
Friedrich Wilhelm Sonnenwald, born Feb 03, 1860, Rywaldzik, Löbau, Westpreußen, baptized 12 Feb 1860, Groß Leistenau, Graudenz, Westpreußen, Father: Gottfried Sonnenwald, Mother: Karoline (Caroline) Dekarski,
It seems that Gross-Leistenau (now Lisnowo, Poland) was the parish Klein Rehwalde belonged to.
The owner of the above website, Hans-Jürgen Wolf, must have done comprehensive research in this region. Perhaps he will be able to help you in your further reseearch.
There is also information on the surname Holz, e.g. Marianna Holz:
http://www.westpreussen.de/einwohner/index.php?m=surnames&sn=Holz
As to the parish Groß- resp. Gross-Leistenau see: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bsubject_id%3A487909
- Groß Leistenau, Westpreußen, Prussia, Evang. Kirche; christenings, 1850-1875
Author: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Genealogical Department
- Kirchenbuch, 1766-1920
Author: Evangelische Kirche Groß Leistenau (Kr. Graudenz)
- Soldatentrauungen im evangelischen Kirchspiel Groß Leistenau Krs. Graudenz/Westpreußen, 1767-1806
- Soldatentrauungen im evangelischen Kirchspiel Groß Leistenau, Krs. Graudenz/Westpreußen, 1767-1806 : (Schluß)
Author: Wolf, Hans-Jürgen
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:34 am
Post subject: Re: Lleinrewalda, West Prussia
| Ute wrote: | John,
I'm pretty sure that the name of the place is Kleinrehwalde resp. Klein Rehwalde, Westpreussen. |
With Ute's information, I can tell you the name in Polish, found it here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biskupiec_%28Powiat_Nowomiejski%29
Rywałdzik (Klein Rehwalde)
It is very close to Lisnowo.
John, you are getting closer.
Best,
Elzbieta
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:32 am
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John,
And I would add that Löbau can be that Labal (Sabal, in your first post)
Gilberto
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starkey76
Joined: 17 Sep 2013
Replies: 164
Location: Wheeling, WV USABack to top |
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:08 pm
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Ute,
That definitely looks like them on that site. Charles and Louisa had Rudolph on Dec 26 1876, a perfect match. Charles was born in April 1850, another match, along with his wife Louisa and her last name Sonnenwald. If I can find Anna Sonnenfeld, hopefully, it will say her husband John Przelenski. Also makes sense that Friedrich Sonnenfeld died around 1877, and then the family arrived in US by 1881-1882. Am I pushing when it says Jette Junghaus was his wife and that might be Henrietta? His son was Michael, but I have his birth around 1856, not 1853. Unbelievable!! Not sure where to start.
Thanks
John
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UtePO Top Contributor
Joined: 13 Dec 2009
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Location: GermanyBack to top |
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:22 pm
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| starkey76 wrote: | Ute,
Am I pushing when it says Jette Junghaus was his wife and that might be Henrietta? His son was Michael, but I have his birth around 1856, not 1853. Unbelievable!! Not sure where to start.
Thanks
John |
John,
Jette is an abbreviation of Henriette or Henrietta. My maternal grandmother's first name was Henriette and she was called 'Jette' or 'Henny' which is my second first name as well.
Ute
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UtePO Top Contributor
Joined: 13 Dec 2009
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Location: GermanyBack to top |
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:39 pm
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| starkey76 wrote: | Ute,
Am I pushing when it says Jette Junghaus was his wife and that might be Henrietta? His son was Michael, but I have his birth around 1856, not 1853. Unbelievable!! Not sure where to start.
Thanks
John |
John,
Yes, Jette is an abbreviation of Henriette or Henrietta. My maternal grandmother's first name was Henriette and she was called 'Jette' or 'Henny'.
I assume you've seen this: http://www.westpreussen.de/einwohner/index.php?m=surnames&sn=Junghaus
- Junghaus, Jette, born abt. 1825
Clicking on her name takes you to Friedrich Sonnenfeld, born abt. 1823, died 14 May 1877, married abt. 1844, children Michael Sonnenfeld, born abt. 1853
The German term 'um' that you see in front of the years means 'about', not an exact year, so don't worry if the years don't match perfectly. When researching an individual or a family over the span of several decades after arrival in the United States, one often finds deviations with respect to first and family names, age, date of birth (e.g. in census records, WWI and WWII Draft Registrations, and so on.) Official records are often incorrect regarding age, place of birth, spelling of names and places, and should be interpreted with this in mind.
Have you seen this: http://www.westpreussen.de/einwohner/index.php?m=family&id=I190708
Karl (Carl) SONNENFELD, b 08 Apr 1850, wife Louise SONNENWALD, b 10 Mar 1851, married 22 Apr 1877, child Bernhard SONNENFELD, b 1877
This is in line with Louisa's 1925 death certificate saying that she was a née Sonnenwald.
Ute
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starkey76
Joined: 17 Sep 2013
Replies: 164
Location: Wheeling, WV USABack to top |
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:36 am
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Ute,
I've been going through them. There's several records that confuse me, unless they could be the same woman. Carl Sonnenfeld's mother is listed as Hedwig Jankowski. Michael Sonnenfeld's mother is listed as Jette Junghaus. Is it possible Junkhaus is actually Jankowski?
Then I noticed 2 families listed for Frederich/Gottfried (Friedrich) Sonnenfeld. 1 for Hedwig Jankowski being the wife, and 1 with Katharina (Catharina) Dekarski as the wife. The mother of Louisa Sonnenwald is listed as Karoline (Caroline) Dekarski, and her father as Gottfried Sonnenwald. Is it possible some of the records for Sonnenwald got mixed with Sonnenfeld?
http://www.westpreussen.de/einwohner/index.php?m=family&id=I192118
http://www.westpreussen.de/einwohner/index.php?m=family&id=I135394
Anyways, my head's starting to hurt. Too many variations that I've seen before. I've been trying to narrow down maybe the Sczcepanski's, as they married with Przelenski's also, but no luck just yet. Big leap though I think.
Thanks
John
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