Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:05 pm
Post subject: Looking for relatives and ancestors in Poland
I think I need to take a crash course in Polish Geography, as I am thoroughly confused by it all. Plus the changing of the names from Polish to American does not seem to help me either.
Here is what I do know though.
My grandfather Stanley Hetz(Stanislaw Ludwika Hyc), came to America in 1912, I found where he came through Ellis Island, and it lists Zakopane, Austria(Poland, I presume now.) I know that his parents were John(Jan)Hyc and Sofia Blahuta. On his death certificate it lists Novatark, Poland as his birth place. He was born Sept 22, 1893. He died here in the USA in PA. During his life here in the USA he worked as a coal miner. That is all I know of his family.
Grandfather Stanley married Louise Ann Yamrick, born Feb 26, 1910, in PA, USA. Louise was the daughter of MaryAnn Verobish(Marie Ann, or Maryja Wyroba), who came to USA in 1904. She was born Jan 22 1883 in Poland and died Sept 24 1936 in PA, USA. She had been raped in Poland and was pregnant, and gave birth on the ship to her son Matthew Verobish(Wyroba), on Jan 10, 1904. MaryAnn's parents were Katazina Yosius(born about 1863) and BARTŁOMIEJ or BARTOSZ Wyroba he was approximately 43 years old when he died of TB in Sept. 1902, and is buried in Zoflary(?)Parrish Church Cemetery.
BARTO and Katazina had the following children.
MaryAnn(Maryja)
Stanislaw(he married a Aniela Antol, they had 8 children)
Jozef(he had 2 children, Sofia, and Jozef)
Telka(born about 1895 in Galicia)
Antonia(died as a child)
Walenti(died as a child)
Anthony(born November 11, 1901, he had 3 children)
after Barto died, Katazina married a Jozef Antol, who had a brother named John who was a builder with 8 children, and a sister Aniela who married Katazina's son Stanley. Jozef Antol died in 1918 from the Flu. Katazina died in 1943, at the age of 80, and is also buried in Zob, at Zoflary Parrish Church. My great uncle said that the records were at the Zob Post Office, and that it is now called Sierockie.
Katazina Yosius parents were Matthew Yosius and Ann Hromiec. and they had Katazina, Blanche who came to Amsberry, PA., USA, and is buried there somewhere. They also had Victoria, who married a Greek, and had a daughter Ann Maria. Victoria is buried in Zob also.
I know for a fact that my great aunts would visit Poland every other year to see relations. Where, or who. I have no clue.
Barto Wyroba's parents were Jozef Wyroba, and the mothers first name is unknown, but her maiden name was Suski.
Jozef was still alive in 1902 when Barto died.
MaryAnn Verobish/Wyroba married a Jacob Yamrick.
I will post again with the Jamryk/Yamrick/Yamryk information.
If anyone can help me with this I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:12 am
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He lists Zakopane as birthplace and last residence as well. Novatark is the misspelling for Nowy Targ.
He was preceeded by a Jozef Hyc in 1907, also from Zakopane, who was going to meet his sister Aniela.
Maybe Stanislaw's siblings.
I have found Tekla Wyroba in EI database (1913) and she declared her birthplace as Poronin, 2 miles nort of Zakopane.
That was Galicia by then. No records online, so far.
Poronin
siedziba gminy
3661 osób
woj. małopolskie
pow. tatrzański
gmina Poronin
kod: 34-520
prefiks tel.: 18
Her father is listed as Jan Antol and she was going to meet her sister Mary.
Gilberto
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:52 pm
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ads~ Regarding your geography questions:
Zakopane Austria – prior to the end of WWI Zakopane was located in Galicia which was under Austrian rule
Novatark, Poland – as Gilberto said, this would be Nowy Targ, just 14 miles north of Zakopane (BTW my grandfather was from here)
Zoflary(?)Parrish Church Cemetery – this would be Szaflary, a town between Nowy Targ and Zakopane
buried in Zob, at Zoflary Parrish Church – I'm guessing this Zob is Ząb (pronounced Zomp), just west of Poronin (under the pink circle)
records were at the Zob Post Office, and that it is now called Sierockie – there is a village Sierockie just north of Ząb
I'm including a map from mapa.szukacz.pl that shows all of these towns (underlined in red) except Nowy Targ which is about 3.6 miles north of Szaflary on this map.
Hopefully others can give you more correct Polish spellings of the surnames. I don't believe parish records from this area are in any online Polish resource yet and only a couple of villages east of Nowy Targ have had their records microfilmed by the LDS church. You have quite a bit of information already. I only knew the names of my grandparents and a couple of their siblings who came to the U.S. Because the records from this area have not been microfilmed, I visited the churches in SW Poland and got further info on their siblings, parents and grandparents. Good luck. ~PL
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:54 pm
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Thank You both so much!!! Your information is so valuable!! This has now given me more information to work with and I really appreciate it!! Hopefully you all can help me with my search for the Jamryk/Yarmrick/Yamryk side as I have a total blank on it. I will be posting that info later, as soon as I get it organized.
Thank you both again for you help!!
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:47 pm
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Thank You so much Elzbieta! I really appreciate that. I certainly was having a hard time with the Yosius! I have corrected that info now on my tree. Thank you for your help!
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:21 pm
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Looking for family part 2
Thank you all for your help so far in this quest.
I am geography challenged, and can not speak or read Polish, and I have tried to learn it over the years.
Now for my Great Grandmother MaryAnn Wyroba's husband and his family.
Grandfather Yamrick's name was Jacob Yamryk or Yamrick in English. My great uncle Stanley told me it was Jamryk in Polish. He also told me the Jamryk family was from Szepknia, Poland. I can not find a Szepknia any where. I am wondering if this is an attempt to
spell it and in Polish it would be different. I am wondering also if the spelling of the Jamryk is different.
Regardless, Grandfathers family were
Jan Jamryk, (abt 1855) born in Poland He married Mary Stopka, or Stopko, she was also born in Poland.
I got that information off of my Great grandfathers death certificate, and off of his brothers death certificate.
Jan and Mary had the following children
a daughter, name and dates unknown, she died young.
Jacob- my great grandfather who was born Aug of 1879, and came to USA in 1903. He died April 13, 1922. He was a coal miner.
John-born 1880, and came to USA, he died in 1969 He was a coal miner
Frank-born 1881 came to USA and died 1971-was a coal miner
Charles born 1896 came to USA and died 1944-was a coal miner.
Besides trying to find the Szepknia, which I can not find, I can not find a Jamryk anywhere.
To me this is very upsetting, for more than one reason.
As strange as this may sound, It is almost if the men in the family were under a curse because
Grandfather Jacob commited suicide, he lit a stick of dynamite and laid on top of it. He was buried in a potters field, in an unmarked grave. That was 1922
Then Uncle Charles, was hit by a car in 1944, died 2 days later from fractures to his skull, an arm, and both legs. Buried in an unmarked grave.
Grandfather Jan died when his home caught on fire, he was blind and could not see to get out. Uncle Stanley remembered that from when he was a child.
Uncle Frank, committed suicide. He shot himself.
Uncle John died in a fire.
Of my greatgrandparents Jacob and Mary Ann's children, their children lived without dying like that, but several of their grandchildren with the name John, or Jacob seemed to die tragic early deaths, by drowning, struck by cars, bleeding to death, and so on.
I believe that with all the tragedy going on, that much information was lost on where the family came from and so on.
Any help or ideas would truly be appreciated.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:29 pm
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Did the family ever say anything about a place Szepknia was near? ~PL
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:35 pm
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| PolishLibrarian wrote: | | Did the family ever say anything about a place Szepknia was near? ~PL |
If they did, that knowledge has not come down to me. All Uncle Stanley said was they were from Szepknia Poland, and nothing was known other than Jacobs father was blind and died in a fire cause he couldn't get out.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:20 am
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I found a Jakob Jamryc coming from Miedzyczerwiennie, which is around Nowy Targ and Czarny Dunajec.
There is a Szuflary place near Czarny, so I think this is the area. (includes Zab, Poronin, Sierockie, and Stopki, a possible ancestral place for the Stopka family).
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:09 am
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| Magroski49 wrote: | I found a Jakob Jamryc coming from Miedzyczerwiennie, which is around Nowy Targ and Czarny Dunajec.
There is a Szuflary place near Czarny, so I think this is the area. (includes Zab, Poronin, Sierockie, and Stopki, a possible ancestral place for the Stopka family).
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Jamryk and Jamrych (also spelled Jambrych, Ambrych) are old Podhale surnames that occured in the district of Nowy Targ as early as 1637 in the village Maruszyna. Later it was also found in the villages Banska, Skrzypne, Bialy Dunajec, Nowe Bystre, Stare Bystre, Maruszyna, Miedzyczerwienne, and Lasek. These are all small villages located close together between Nowy Targ and Zakopane.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:12 am
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Could the town be Skrzypne? See below yesterday's map revised. Międzyczerwienne (apparently now the name of a Hill or Mountain as other peaks in the Tatrys are also represented by the triangle), is represented by the triangle in the perfect red circle to the left (west) of Skrzypne and just above the village of Czerwienne.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:42 pm
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Oh my gosh you all are just fantastic!! I really appreciate all of this. I now have something to go on. Thank you all so much!
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:55 pm
Post subject: I am also looking for the same family history.
This is my grandfather when he came to the United States from Zakopane. Jan Hyc and Sophia Blahuta were his parents. Does anybody have any information about names of his brothers and/or sisters? Thank you!
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