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BobK
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: Dornkinke or Domkinke? or? (1903: Poland or Russia?)

I found the Ellis Island manifest for my cousin's other grandmother, Anna Kretschmann. Born in 1871 and arrived at Ellis Island in 1903, she gave her village of "Dornkinke" as her home. (the handwriting Could be "Domkinke"). I've searched and can't find either.

The Nationality column has her listed as "Russia" and her ethnicity listed as "German".

I'm ASSUMING she came from Eastern Europe, as did our other grandparents did (from Poland). Whether Poland or Volhynia or Russia itself - we don't know. But I've not been able to find any town close to the given name(s).

Here's the Town name clipped from the manifest line. (the ethnicity "German" is to the right) Any one have any idea's?

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:09 am Post subject:

Bob,

It is really hard to decipher it. Can you upload the whole page of the manifest? Sometimes it is helpful to figure out from other words how specific letters are handwritten by given clerk.

Maybe some helpful hints would be the map of currently living Kretshmann in Poland http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kretschmann.html and list of old German names of places in today's Poland http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemieckie_nazwy_polskich_miejscowo%C5%9Bci .

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject:

http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp
This site finds the German name, given the Polish name, and vice versa. It is particularly useful genealogically as it gives the names of the Catholic and Protestant parishes for the place.

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject:

Henry, I've tried several combinations, and can't get hits on anything..
I don't want to load a huge file, but this should be enough to see how the name of the town is written.
As the subject says - it looks like an "m' or "r n" to me ..

Anna's name is on line 19, her daughter's is on 18. The town name is just to the right of the center.

Year of immigration is 1902, if that helps

Bob K.

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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Ftif2gif%2Eexe%3FT%3D%5C%5C%5C%5C192%2E168%2E100%2E11%5C%5CIMAGES%5C%5CT715%2D0342%5C%5CT715%2D03420126%2ETIF%26S%3D%2E5&pID=102632020721&name=Anna%26nbsp%3BKretschman&doa=Apr+15%2C+1903&port=Hamburg&line=0019
Her passenger manifest.
I can't make the residence out. I do not even see any places ??kinke in any list of German place names. I note on page 124 the German Varschau is used in place of Warszawa. So perhaps her stated residence name is not the official name.
I could not locate her husband's manifest. Perhaps the place name is more legible there.

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:04 am Post subject:

I consulted your case Bob with my colleague, very experienced genealogists, Iwona Dakiniewicz.

She suggests that the village name is Dębinki or Dembinke.

She listed all areas where such villages were located.

Dębinki in Russian partition:
1) par. Postoliska , Radzymin
2) par. Nowogrod , Kolno
3) par. Zegrze , Radzymin
4) par. Zatory , Pultusk
5) par. Potok Wlk , Janow
6) par. Opoczno
7) Wilno county (today's Lithuania)
8 ) Święciany county (today's Lithuania)

Or Dembinke in Prussia partition in Szubin county.

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