Hardorff
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
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Location: SwedenBack to top |
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:52 pm
Post subject: Finding the Polish Ancestors, Romanowska nee Konieczyńska
I'm researching the family of my girlfriend Gosia and I'm stuck - at the very beginning.
We live in Sweden, so I'm trying to find info through online resources to start with. If everything ells fails, I'll have to go to Poland in order to visit archives.
I have chosen to start with her mother's side of the family, since I got more info on them.
My girlfriend's grandmother was born in Poland (I don't know in which city) in 1931 and died in Sweden in 2013.
Her name was Halina Maria Konieczynska. She was born 10 August 1931 in Niemenczyn, Lithuania.
She moved to Poland with her parents (IDK the exact date), but it has to be before her 18th birthday (1949 at the latest where her daughter - my girlfriends mother was born).
She changed name to Romanowska when she married Brosnislaw Romanowski.
I know Brosnislaw Romanowski (February 1929–1981) was a high ranking army officer in the Polish army.
He too was born in Vilnius, Lithuania and died in Warsaw of a heart attack, if I remember correctly.
Where should I search to find his death certificate? And the same question goes for their wedding certificate?
Halina Maria Romanowska's parents were Aleksander Konieczynski and Helena Grabowska.
Aleksander was born in Poznan in Poland in 1901.
He then moved to Lithuania where he and his wife Helena got at least one of their 3 children (I don't know if there were more children).
Helena Grabowska was born in Latvia, as far as I know.
It should be in 1900.
I have heard she spent the last part of her life (or some of it) in a mental hospital.
Is it possible to find some records on her in the Polish health system?
One of their children was Halina Maria Romanowska, another girl I don't know the name of, moved to Canada and the last one of the sister was named Olympia (Spelling?). She was in Auschwitz-Birkenau and survived. I think she died in Poland.
I tried searching on the online resources I found here on PO, but I wasn't able to find anyone who matched with the correct birth years etc..
It's a lot of questions but I hope you can help me to move forward.
Any help is appreciated.
/Dimitri (and no, I'm not Russian, I'm Danish  )
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HenrykPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:42 pm
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Contact the Polish Red Cross. The pertinent responsibilities:
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Tel: [48] (22)3261382
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
Joined: 09 Nov 2012
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Location: Paris, FranceBack to top |
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:00 am
Post subject: Re: Finding the Polish Ancestors, Romanowska nee Konieczyńsk
| Hardorff wrote: |
I know Brosnislaw Romanowski (February 1929–1981) was a high ranking army officer in the Polish army.
He too was born in Vilnius, Lithuania and died in Warsaw of a heart attack, if I remember correctly.
Where should I search to find his death certificate? And the same question goes for their wedding certificate?
/Dimitri (and no, I'm not Russian, I'm Danish ) |
Hi,
On the list of obituaries http://www.nekrologi-baza.pl/zlista/334
Romanowski Bronisław 08.09.1981
That means his death was announced publicly in the newspapers, as that database is made of public announcements:
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Materiały źródłowe // Sources
„Gazeta Wyborcza” („Gazeta Stołeczna”)
„Życie Warszawy”
„Trybuna”
Inskrypcje nagrobne na warszawskich cmentarzach: Powązkowskim, Wojskowym na Powązkach, Bródnowskim, Ewangelicko-Augsburskim, Ewangelicko-Reformowanym, Prawosławnym, Żydowskim i innych.
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They write that they provide you free of charge with information from their database - I have no idea if it includes scan of obituary, which would give you at least information what was inside.
http://www.nekrologi-baza.pl/?page_id=99
Searching cemetery in Warsaw:
http://www.cmentarzekomunalne.com.pl/mapa/szukaj.php
with Romanowski Bronisław
His grave is on the Military cemetery in Powazki (that is Zoliborz district, but it does not mean anything about the disctrict in which he died and his death was declared), his birth date is not given, and death is the last day of the year (that would mean year , but not day).
The USC (Urzad Stanu Cywilnego - Civil Vital Records Registry) for Warsaw:
http://usc.um.warszawa.pl/
(very much marriages oriented)
The list of registries/books they have
http://usc.um.warszawa.pl/sites/usc.um.warszawa.pl/files/ksiegi_Archiwum.pdf
Contacts and phones:
http://bip.warszawa.pl/Menu_podmiotowe/Urzad_Stanu_Cywilnego/default.htm
I do not know if death acts from 1981 -- 34 years old today -- are publicly available or not. If not, your girlfriend has to demonstrate her filiation with Romanowski Bronisław, and then she can get his extract of death, and any other one existing, marriage too, if he was married in Warsaw.
Once it is demonstrated you have righ to records, you have to pay for it - modest fees, circa 30 pln per record, bank's fees for international wire transfers are much bigger, but maybe not for European Union (Sweden or Danemark are not eurozone).
Warsaw archives have also some records from Kresy (that includes Lithuania).
Good luck!
Elzbieta
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