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Danette



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Post Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:10 pm      Post subject:
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What if it is Zembrow, and not Zambrow?

Zembrów
woj. mazowieckie
pow. sokołowski
gmina Sabnie

Gilberto

Hi Gilberto,
It very well could be, I am not ruling anything out yet, especially since I am not familiar at all with Polish towns etc. (I'm working on it though :}). Would Jablonka and Zareby Koscielne be around there? Lomsa(Lomza)?
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:39 pm      Post subject:
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Danette wrote:
What if it is Zembrow, and not Zambrow?

Zembrów
woj. mazowieckie
pow. sokołowski
gmina Sabnie

Gilberto

Hi Gilberto,
It very well could be, I am not ruling anything out yet, especially since I am not familiar at all with Polish towns etc. (I'm working on it though :}). Would Jablonka and Zareby Koscielne be around there? Lomsa(Lomza)?
Danette


See maps showing Lomza, Zambrow and Zembrow. And to make things more confused there is a group of villages named Jablonna (Jablonka?) about 6 miles away.

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Elzbieta Porteneuve
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Post Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:19 am      Post subject:
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Another idea.

Schiff is very much for English or German ears, French would be Chiff, Polish ... that's the question.
There is a Jewish given name, written Szifra in Cyrillic, but I have seen the same given name written Szyfra or Cyfra/Cypra in Latin scripts - it is very easy to confuse Cyrillic handwritten f and p.
The attached is a capture of the given name Szifra in Cyrillic, which would be Schifra for English-German ears.

The word "schifra" sounds for Polish ears very much like "cyfra"=digit (a number between 0 and 9).

I wonder if we shall look also on Schiff Last name written in Cyrillic very much like Cyfr* (any suffix).

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Elzbieta

NB. The list of Jewish given names used in Poland is inside
http://genealodzy.pl/PNphpBB2-printview-t-30669-start-15.phtml



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Post Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:58 am      Post subject:
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Hi Elizbieta,
This morning someone found a record that lists Hanchel's surname as Schifman. From Lomza. (I still believe he was born in Jablonka, close to Zambrow). Maybe he can be found now under this surname?
Thank you so very much for all you've done, I couldn't do it without your help!
Best,
Danette

Hi Gilberto,
Thank you for the maps!! It helps to see the region!
Best,
Danette
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Post Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:59 am      Post subject:
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Oh, he is listed as Ancze Schifman. Father - Froim
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